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Wildcat! 04-02-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by 30stone
and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpo_MREQ-sg

I used to like this guy but hes always taking the p**s out of white people.
h!

I watched that whole clip, there was nothing racist or no racial slur involved whatsoever. That was just funny!

And I guarantee you a lot of white folks in that audience are Laughing. IN fact the whole skit was about black people not able to have fun like white people do! You completely missed the joke. I guess thats the dfference between american comedy and english.

andyman 04-02-2009 02:31 AM

lol that was a funny vid...

But if he was a white guy making jokes about black people would i laugh?.. Yes i would coz why not.

It should be a fair playing field.

30stone 04-02-2009 02:33 AM

I use pikey just as something offensive theres nothing racist about it. My dad and grandparents were pikeys...

And when i was younger a golliwog was just a little badge that was bought for me that is it...

and from people i watch lee evans/ peter kay, never use any sterotype towards any other race from what ive seen..

And im going to bed. I know i wont get anywhere anyway...

30stone 04-02-2009 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
lol that was a funny vid...

But if he was a white guy making jokes about black people would i laugh?.. Yes i would coz why not.

It should be a fair playing field.
yeh but you wont see a white guy saying things like that because he'd get destroyed by media over here.

Wildcat! 04-02-2009 02:34 AM

OF course I would laugh the other way around. That was really funny! ANd white comedians do these types as well all the time in the US. Like how the Athletes are all black, and he cant get the girls because he is the only white dude in the BBall team! These kind of jokes are common in the US and no one cares about it!

andyman 04-02-2009 02:44 AM

Ange7 should be around soon to put his 2cents in...

:bigsmile:


Too much can be seen as racist when its not..

Wildcat! 04-02-2009 02:49 AM

Haha! Yeah. I love Ange7 views on society! His perspective is always very stern! I dont agree all the time, but usually I can see his points.

Yeah I think so too. Too much is seen as racist when its not. But like amongst my friends, I can do things that I would do in public, or on TV! Like I have white friends in the US, that use the N word around me, because amongst us, its not a racial term, becasue we are so close. But we know society is not ready for it yet. I do have high hopes though, that a lot o thing are gonna change these next 2 to 3 years, and lot less racial tensions, especially across the atlantic.

Novo 04-02-2009 03:03 AM

Ange7 is a she?

andyman 04-02-2009 03:03 AM

I think it was BB8 that a white woman used the N word but she used it in convo and not to attack charley (black gal)... She was kicked out.

I think race will always be an issue, it should never be like that but i think we still have a long way yet to go before the word racist is behind us..

andyman 04-02-2009 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by .Andy.
Ange7 is a she?
Ange7 is male, male sign near the name..

Then again 30stone has a female sign, lol. But it don't really matter, male or female, black or white, hair or no hair, rich or poor...

I'm thinking of a song there...

Wildcat! 04-02-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by .Andy.
Ange7 is a she?
Ange7 is male, male sign near the name..

Then again 30stone has a female sign, lol. But it don't really matter, male or female, black or white, hair or no hair, rich or poor...

I'm thinking of a song there...

Errrrrrm, I prefer rich actually!

andyman 04-02-2009 03:13 AM

Rich with joy... That has to be better than being rich with money? :bouncy:

Dont need money....
















*lend us a fiver?*

*mazedsalv** 04-02-2009 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by hannah.
depends on the reason for throwing him off.
Maybe he's fat, its not racist then is it :joker:
Knowing what people react to now, if he was fat, it would also be seen as racist :tongue:

arista 04-02-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Quote:

Originally posted by hannah.
depends on the reason for throwing him off.
Maybe he's fat, its not racist then is it :joker:
Knowing what people react to now, if he was fat, it would also be seen as racist :tongue:



I use Fat
and Slim.


Vanessa on Radio London is a Fat Ass.
She can take that.

ange7 05-02-2009 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Ange7 should be around soon to put his 2cents in...

:bigsmile:


Too much can be seen as racist when its not..
nah I didn't want to jump in over the top of ama ..... his first hand experience would bring a lot more than I ever could. Anyway ..ama.. we'll do this "good cop, bad cop" style. ie you be their friend and I'll throw them around the interview room hehe.
Calling someone a golliwog is obviously racist because the intent wasn't a joke like those vids... it was a nasty attack. What's more an attack against someone who wasn't even around so it can't be called " light hearted" or as arista put it “just saying it was in jest “.. rubbish as per matey...
Baby Thatcher like many racists will throw in a casual racial slur to kind test the water and see if anyone else in the room has similar sympathies. If she got a positive response like a laugh etc she would have ramped it up but as it was one of the listeners ( probably Jo Brand) took offence and rightly outed her. Sucked in biaatch hehe.

You guys that had golliwog toys given to you when you were younger ought not bemoan the fact that now it's all changed and it's suddenly racist. It was a symbol of racism when you were given it. I'm not taking shots at your parents but you guys aren't more than 15.... you got them at around 5 … so you were given them just 10 or 12 years ago.... ie back when it was still considered a symbol of racism and ridicule. Sorry but YOU haven't painted your olds in a favourable light there.
Andyman ..dude your like the xenophobe pied piper … look at all of them following behind you hehe. You again start a seemingly innocent thread yet then turn up the heat with “White person says "golliwog".. Is that racist? Black person says "white trash".. Is that racist?”dude...! yes they both are....
Sorry I can't see how calling a black person a golliwog can't be racist. The whole “boo hoo but blacks call us whitey” is a rubbish side issue. Because some blacks may or may not be racists ( using examples of comedy was a poor choice but clearly some are) doesn't make the term “ golliwog” ok. I believe people who are OK with the term are racist and I'm sick to fck of people trying to hide their racist attitudes behind the shield of “oh it's PC gone mad!!”. What I don't get Andyman is that you and ama were watching the superbowl together while in that thread but in the real world you'd call him a golliwog behind his back?.. is that right?

Lol @ Xander “Yay someone agrees for once, LOL. “ … yeah racial hate threads are your niche mate.

Anyway my list of confirmed racist as grown … haha. Look, you posters that agreed that golliwog is OK...(ie the lot of you except for ama hannah andy) why not grow some balls and call ama a golliwog right here right now. You'll be banned faster than you can say “ boo hoo ...why do I have to press 1 for english.... THIS IS ENGLAND!!!”?” mahahah

brrrrrrring it ! :P

andyman 05-02-2009 05:31 AM

ange7, do you think i'm a racist? I'm sure you have wrote that about me...

Tom 05-02-2009 10:52 AM

I read a report she refused to say sorry ... good on her I say

30stone 05-02-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Tom
I read a report she refused to say sorry ... good on her I say

Yeh i saw that to, i thought she might its what shes like .

ok shes been sacked for not apologising.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...apologise.html

to much over reaction over this, stories like this are always blow out of proporsion

ange7 05-02-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
ange7, do you think i'm a racist? I'm sure you have wrote that about me...
absolutely ... your always starting anti black, anti Moslem and anti foreigner threads. I've told you at least 5 times I think your racist... it's hardly a secret...lol it's like you daring me to say it.
Dude your arguing that calling someone a golliwog isn't racists...on what planet does that make sense. Mate your in a no win position...don't be fooled by the fact the curly and mo here agree with you that your on a winner. Hehe.

I asked you would you call ama a golliwog if you saw him on the street. You've left that question hanging. Would you? I also asked you to grow some balls and openly call ama or any black person a golliwog... (seeing how you don't think it's racist) and see how long it takes for you to get banned. That goes for your 2 chums here too.

arista 05-02-2009 02:28 PM

Did that BBC woker have to leak this to the Press?

This looks like someone in the
background, wanted her off that show.

NettoSuperstar! 05-02-2009 02:36 PM

Calling someone a gollywog is racist end of!

NettoSuperstar! 05-02-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arista
Did that BBC woker have to leak this to the Press?

This looks like someone in the
background, wanted her off that show.
This looks like she was racist she got sacked!

arista 05-02-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Calling someone a gollywog is racist end of!


Everyone who knows her says she is not Racist
at all.

This was not said On Air.


A BBC worker
jumped at this - sold it to the Press.

Give her 3 months off
would solve this.

Callum 05-02-2009 02:41 PM

Personally I don't think she should have got fired, she probably didn't mean any harm when she said it. I expect the person who she was referring to just laughed it off. What I find disgusting though is that someone leaked it out to the press, whatever's said in the greem room should be kept there. :bored:

NettoSuperstar! 05-02-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
This guy said this to me...

"your in a boat with 2 other men, one is white and the other is black, same weight, same age, same hight etc... But the boat is sinking, you have to throw one man off the boat now before you all sink... Who do you throw out of the boat?"...
...and your point is?


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