To be fair Bea was noly repeating what charlie has said to her in the bedroom. It was charlie that started the whole tell tailing of what ken had said. Ken said that he thought bea was intimidating him, charlie then ran through to bedroom and told bea what he had said.

In the garden Bea only asked kenny if he thought she was intimidating him, as to which he took the wrong way and caused a comotion. I think bea was only trying to get the truth from him. She didnt do wrong imo and had every right to confront him on that. I`m by no means a Bea supporter as im still trying to sus her out. But i dont think she deserves all the hate shes getting at the moment.

Yes but the fair comprimise that she declined, was targetting Noirin.

You say it's ok that she decided to not do the task ('let it be') but there's consequences:

= 4 people going up instead
= Not participating as part of a team
= Someone evicted who did TRY; so she's responsible for that, partially
= Is smug about knowing/thinking she won't go anyway. Not a nice attitude really.

As she went in as an individual, she made a decision as an individual. She did what most people would do and made a judgement based on basic survival, because isn't that what this show is all about. In its most basic form it's survival of the fittest and then means mentally as well as physically. I didn't see them hounding Hira as much as they were Bea and lets face it they really didn't put that much effort into it anyway. Bea wasn't the only weak link in the chain, they all were.

She would have to have known that the housemates would have totally understood it was simply a task! Which is what they all expect to do when they go in the house!

She didnt take part in the task, thankfully theyre all up for eviction, so we can get Kenny out. They weren't ever going to pass the task anyway, never

If you come into big brother late, your at an instant disadvantage

If big brother sets you a task that means you have to bitch about certain housemates to try and manipulate others, (whilst trying to gain acceptance??? yeah rite!)

4 out of 5 saw winning the task as the best way to guarantee staying in the house, Bea saw being herself, and taking her chances in the 5 way vote, integrity intact, as the way forward

It might be a foregone conclusion that Kenny goes this week, but next week i think Beas in safer position than the remaining 3 noobs

Ken didn't say he thought Bea was intimidating him. He said that she was TRYING to intimidate him.

That is fine that she wasn't happy at doing the task, none of them were. I liked and respected her for that at the time. But then she went and sold the others out after already displaying a rather vindictive nature of trying to wind Kenny up in front of others and laughing and actually enjoying it. She knew totally what she was doing.

Yes but she was never honest about that and told it straight.

Her excuses were that she was so respectful and loving of the other HMs that she'd never do that to them.

Instead of saying that she knew she wouldn't go, so it wasn't a worthwhile choice for her to do all that.

Like I said, there are consequences to just deciding not to bother.

Maybe, but its too late now she didnt do the task, so i dont see why theres all this fuss over it...

I wasn't aware there was a fuss! Is there then?

maybe she is just a decent person(yes they do exsist).

i find it so funny that so many talk of game plans etc (yawn) ,hard for narrow minded people to believe,but not everyone has an agenda.people really shouldnt judge by their own standards.if she had played along,you would be calling her a 2 faced bitch,if she said nothing she would be a fence sitter.

I don't think she's a bad person lol, I just think she should have contributed to the task and not been smug about the idea of already being safe. It's good to be a team player, pull your weight, make friends, etc.

Likewise it sucks that Freddie only speaks to the one that 'fits his category' because she's white/posh/middle class/hippy. A form of prejudice.

Things like this highlight just how real, wise and down to earth Lisa is. She relates to ALL types.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: Completely concur! :dance2:

Seeing as there are multiple topics mainly about her not taking part in the task, id say there was.

OH!!!:spin2:And there was I thinking people were having a discussion!:puzzled:

I really think the tree hugging hippy facade has very quickly been dropped! She knew what buttons to press with Kenny and kept making little comments that she knew would wind him up. I'm not condoning his behaviour but when he tried to explain and apologise, she was really hard nosed and wouldn't even look at him.

Then to top it all off, blatently trying to turn the housemates against Kenny & Tom by saying they were the ones pressurising her to get Halfwit up....... She is one sneaky cow!

Thanks for putting so well what I have been trying to say all along. :thumbs:

The hm refused to nominate and purposely talked about nominations because of the secret task and the fact that they were not allowed to nominate new hm. If Bea cared so much, why did she not tell them what the secret task was before effectively allowing them all to commit suicide?