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Daffodil 02-08-2009 07:29 AM

No amount of money is going to suddenly bring Charlie's Mum out of a coma. He is using the pity card to win the money and the fame for himself. He does NOT need money for her care, the NHS will be doing it for free. Every one of the contestants will have had some sort of personal tragedy in their life to cope with, some maybe even worse than his ... but they choose dignity, honesty and confidentiality over the need for £100,000.
Charlie is always saying things like 'I always see the good in people' or 'I've got a heart of gold I have'. How on Earth can anyone be objective when describing themselves?? Most of us wouldn't have the cheek to show off like that.
And let us not forget the bullying of Freddie that he and Kris did, or the splashing of Angel or the tittle tattling and spreading of gossip that he is good at.
Maybe he should also stop and think of all the people that may have actually lost one parent in childhood, or become orphaned.
I don't buy his constant self-praise.
Get him out.

faty32 02-08-2009 07:56 AM

My mum has died 11 years ago, but if she was in a coma i ouldn't leave her side for more than a day!!! I ould certantly not go into a game that could take up to 3 month!!!

hotspur95 02-08-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
:conf:

faty32 02-08-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by hotspur95
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Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
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faty32 02-08-2009 08:09 AM

just a way of sayng he is using a wild card he shouldn't

Lauren 02-08-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by hotspur95
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Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
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No. It's a technical way of saying he has a disorder.

Lauren 02-08-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Daffodil
No amount of money is going to suddenly bring Charlie's Mum out of a coma.
What, so you expect people who have ill mothers NOT to go onto a reality TV show? Cos if they did, and the story came out (which it will, because it takes up a large part of your life so invariably you're bound to mention it in the house) - you'd be going for the "pity" card.

No, his mum being in a coma and him being on Big Brother are two independent things. He's never once suggested they're one and the same.

Lauren 02-08-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by faty32
My mum has died 11 years ago, but if she was in a coma i ouldn't leave her side for more than a day!!! I ould certantly not go into a game that could take up to 3 month!!!
You're not Charlie. Everyone is different. If you were willing to sit in your house for 2 years beside someone bed-ridden then okay - but obviously he isn't - it doesn't make you more of a person or he less.

The_Long_Run 02-08-2009 08:21 AM

A red-top tabloid tells us she is ' a coma'. Why does everyone believe this crap.

People talk about her being 'unresponsive'. This is NOT true and she encouraged him to follow his long held dream of being in the BB House. He loves his mother with all his heart and is immensely proud of her, as is she of him. She will be watching from hospital and they have agreed that it will be good for her to have the opportunity to watch her beloved sun fulfilling his dream.

He comes across as 'too good to be true' with his gentleness and peacemaker role, trying to make everone get on. He is trying to be good to make his mum proud of him, nothing to do with winning MONEY!

Get real you set of heartless cynical ghouls, who would eather watch a "train wreck" in BB than a harmonious house. Thank God Charlie is protected from seeing this crapola whilst he is in the house.

28thapril 02-08-2009 08:23 AM

If he was that bothered he shoud've stayed at home with her :conf:

Did he think out of 22 people he could win by telling them about his mum I don't think so it's a game and they all want the money and some need it more than most:thumbs:

Lauren 02-08-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by 28thapril
If he was that bothered he shoud've stayed at home with her :conf:

Did he think out of 22 people he could win by telling them about his mum I don't think so it's a game and they all want the money and some need it more than most:thumbs:
He didn't tell them about his mum to win, christ. He didn't even mention the money at all. OBVIOUSLY his mum being in this condition would be something to talk about, I imagine this heartbreaking thing has consumed his life for 2 years!

AND you say he should stay at home with her? For 2 years? Never to leave the house, follow his dreams, get a job, get a life? Of course he's meant to get on with his life, it doesn't mean he can't be completely destroyed by this.

Cody™ 02-08-2009 08:32 AM

And for this reason alone i hope it doesnt work out for him. There more desperate someone becomes to win, the further the British public should throw them off the pedestool! Charlie cannot win!

Lauren 02-08-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Cody™
And for this reason alone i hope it doesnt work out for him. There more desperate someone becomes to win, the further the British public should throw them off the pedestool! Charlie cannot win!
He hasn't mentioned his mum synonymous with winning! It just came up in conversation, as it would - since it's consumed his life. I don't think he should win either, but on the basis that he's not my favourite housemate.

I wouldn't for one moment think of saying about ANYONE "they shouldn't win because their mum is disabled, lets knock them off that pedestal".

mrsme 02-08-2009 08:42 AM

you lot really make me sick.
what right have you got to judge him. I for one have never heard him talk about his mum being in a coma, and I certainly haven't heard him try to influence people by "going on about it".
WHY shouldn't he be in the big brother house? We are the ones who decide who wins the money, noone else. I don't vote for someone because they have a particular cause, I vote for whoever has entertained me the most. Charlie is a young lad. He comes across to me as being a little immature, and whilst I wouldn't go on the show if my mother was in hospital, each to his own. I wouldn't go on the show full stop, but that doesn't mean no one should.
Pepole are far too judgemental without knowing facts these days. How many times have YOU heard Charlie "go on" about his personal circumstances?

redder8 04-08-2009 12:27 AM

I just think he is a knob, who thinks he is so entertaining and thinks he is going to win.
The sooner he goes the better.

irishaddict 04-08-2009 12:35 AM

Well I have watched in from the start and the first i heard was when Iassc mentioned it - not Charlie! I would be talking about my family if i were away from them - sick or not! It is easy for people to judge when u arnt going through it yourself!

Annmarie 04-08-2009 12:36 AM

I think this thread should be deleted. It's one thing slagging a hm off but it's another when it's gets to a personal level like this has.

NadiasWilly 04-08-2009 02:07 AM

I don't think he does talk about it a lot. I only learnt of it when Isaac mentioned it on BBBM. And I can't imagine that he would go up to a newbie like Isaac and start randomly talking about his Mother being ill.

It's more likely that Noirin mentioned it to Isaac and then maybe isaac brought it up in conversation with Charlie.

wozzup69 04-08-2009 11:23 PM

Get him out. Can't stand him. Snake.

squinky 08-08-2009 01:10 AM

im appalled by the attitudes of some people,iwould hardly call it a "sob story",that is a pretty cold thing to say.you would have to be one sick **** to use someones illness to your own advantage,and i dont believe for one moment that charlie,or most people for that matter would behave that way.id not even heard about it until i read this thread,so how can it be said that he keeps going on about it.and ffs,even if he does...so what,its his mum.its so easy for people to be sanctimonious and say,well i wouldnt have even gone in the house,what is he supposed to do,sit by her bed 24/7.i went through something similar,with my dad,and i couldnt have been there all the time,it just wasnt possible.its easy to judge when you have never been in that situation.when my dad did finally pass away, someone accussed me of attempting to get sympathy,now that was sick.

Vicky. 08-08-2009 01:13 AM

He probably thinks that everytime he mentions it, its shown on the HLs.

Glad BB arent playing along with the game

If we voted for who had the worst sob story, he won win, hands down. But if we are doing this then why not just go give the hundred grand to the cancer ward at the childrens hospital and be done with it.

HalfwitFTW 08-08-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by Lauren
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i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.
He's in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh. It certainly doesn't look like it's been hard on him.
I'm sorry but this makes me sick. His MUM is in a coma, she's non responsive to her son!! How do you think that makes him feel?

How do you expect him to react? Moping around EVERY day that she's in a coma, constantly reminding himself he can't joke, laugh, smile, have fun... because his mum back home is in a vegetative state.

Whether you like the HM or not (I don't), have some compassion at least, this is the sort of thing that can destroy someones emotions. I'm not saying want him to win, or vote to keep him in, but certainly don't underestimate the effect something like this could have on someone.
I didn't mean it in a bad way... just stating the obvious. Are you saying he ISN'T in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh?

BONNEIP 08-08-2009 01:20 AM

Tell you something if my ma, was in a coma. There's no way in hell i wouldn't be with her, right beside her bed every day she had left or till she was well. So ok he needs the cash, but he had a job before BB.

luminoussun 08-08-2009 01:20 AM

He told isaac about it the first night he met him.
It worked as isaac wanted him to win

boomoo 08-08-2009 02:14 AM

A number of housemates said when they first met Charlie they thought he would win.

This was before he had a chance to tell anyone about his home circumstances.

It would have been a total bore if Charlie had not been on the programme.
I am not sure he will win but he is moving up the favourite list all the time.

marcpaygnard 12-08-2009 07:17 PM

HIS VILE!!

He is playing the victim card so often, that its actually summit he thinks he can use to his advantage. Its sick! i personally hope that the other housemate suss him out soon, and put him up for nomination...


I think its time charlie left the house!!

GET CHARLIE OUT!!

:hello:

santaa 12-08-2009 07:30 PM

Whats wrong with his mum. Ive never heard it mentioned on the show

Vicky. 12-08-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by santaa
Whats wrong with his mum. Ive never heard it mentioned on the show
LOL are you joking?!

DrunkerThanMoses 12-08-2009 07:32 PM

Their being good and cutting it out.

Shes in a coma or dying or something like that, and he wants her to be proud by hearing his voice on tv...... that would make her go into a deeper coma!

marcpaygnard 12-08-2009 07:33 PM

ARE YOU KIDDING!?!


Thats his card his been using to avoid nominations since the day he entered!


His a Snake! I can see thru him, and wudnt trust him to tell me the time!


GET CHARLIE OUT!!
:yuk:

brian3 12-08-2009 07:35 PM

what the hell is he doing on big brother if he cares about her that much

dialsq 12-08-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
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Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
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sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public
IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money
I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her?
Probably what he has asked is they keep him informed of any change he needs to know about etc
They usually do that dont they??
It wouldnt be enough for me though, I would have to be near and definately not on BB
Couldnt agree more :thumbs:

santaa 12-08-2009 07:39 PM

Thanks but details of illness sketchy.I imagine BBwould inform him if there was any change in her condition. Seems a strange thing for him to do nevertheless.

Akerbie 12-08-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by InOne
When Siavash had the choice to make one housemate immune for nominations, nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww we know why he chose Charlie!
For God's sake get your facts right.

He chose Marcus.
Quite right! Charlie was exempt from nominating anybody else,... but I got the feeling that the other housemates thought that they couldn't nominate him too. He didn't get one vote.:bawling:

minx36 12-08-2009 07:41 PM

This is the first I have heard of it!

I'm quite shocked, I'm not sure I'd be in the house in his position, but that said, I don't like Charlie but do not think he comes across as mentioning his family plight too often at all!

BBmassive 12-08-2009 07:43 PM

I can HONESTLY say I have never heard him mention his Mum ,and Im no Charlie fan ,but in truth I have never heard him

kathypink 12-08-2009 07:46 PM

Sorry, but if my Mum or any close member of my family was in a coma, I would not go into the BB house. I would want to be with her. Okay, so he thinks he may win the money to help her and other charities, but there's absolutely no guarantee of this. So why risk being away from your loved one for all those weeks?

philmurph 12-08-2009 07:48 PM

This thread is sick, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Lets hope none of your family members fall ill because karma's a bitch

Vicky. 12-08-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by BBmassive
I can HONESTLY say I have never heard him mention his Mum ,and Im no Charlie fan ,but in truth I have never heard him
he did it most recently 2 nights ago on LF.


If i win the money will go to my mum who is in a coma and i will do a sponsored bike ride.

Or words to that effect.

Vicky. 12-08-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by philmurph
This thread is sick, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Lets hope none of your family members fall ill because karma's a bitch
if one of my family members was seriously ill though, i would not go on a show like big brother where i could be away from them for months on end. If it was my mother i sure as hell wouldnt leave her bedside. :rolleyes:


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