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Tom4784 24-04-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3185285)
I see logic and you arent acquainted.

Same can be said for you and sense if you think any of them can be trusted.

Shasown 24-04-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3185294)
Same can be said for you and sense if you think any of them can be trusted.

PMSL Touche almost. nah nowhere near.

I would trust any person who bears the monica politician as far as I can throw a bull by its bollocks.

They can be trusted to make life more difficult, more expensive, more bureaucratic, and also to line their pockets at our expense.

You see when they retire they have index linked pensions which means inflation etc doesnt really affect them too much.

But then again I am failry cynical in general outlook, I used to be just bitter and twisted.

Angus 24-04-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3185272)
Like the others he'll say anything to get into power, nothing will come of it though because like with all politicians it's just empty words. Anyone foolish enough to vote in a Tory will deserve what's coming to them when they drop the whole 'we care about the working class!' act as soon as they're elected. They care about the middle and upper classes, always have and always will.

All politicians are snakes but out of the current candidates Cameron is by far the worst.



Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.



The tories have always backed controlled immigration - so NO they are not all the same. As for caring about middle and upper classes, I suggest you look at the credentials of the labour mps, most of whom are what I would term upper middle class. and most of whom have been caught with their greedy little fingers in the national till.

As for telling lies, I suggest you look no further than the spin doctors of the Labour Party - everyone is still searching for these weapons of mass destruction they assured us were in Iraq, and as for their figures on immigration, they are a complete work of fiction. This lot have practically bankrupted this nation, yet their answer to all problems is simply to keep borrowing and throwing money around (often to the undeserving) as if it were confetti. Remember what it was like 13 years ago when England was still recognisable? Well what we have now is all down to the New Labour criminals. No spin, no lies, just the evidence all around us that can be seen by anyone with even half a brain.

AND YET there are morons out there still prepared to subject us all to another five years under the Labour jackboot.

Tom4784 24-04-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3185312)
PMSL Touche almost. nah nowhere near.

I would trust any person who bears the monica politician as far as I can throw a bull by its bollocks.

They can be trusted to make life more difficult, more expensive, more bureaucratic, and also to line their pockets at our expense.

You see when they retire they have index linked pensions which means inflation etc doesnt really affect them too much.

But then again I am failry cynical in general outlook, I used to be just bitter and twisted.

It's a terrible bunch really, but judging from some of his past actions and when the Tories were in charge they just aren't suited to helping the majority (none of them are, but moreso the Tories and Labour).

Plus he has a most punchable face. :joker:

So by default that leaves Nick Clegg, he can't do any worse then the other two surely? Unless he trips up and acidently presses the big red button. Either way this country's going down faster then a roofied teen.

I say stick Nick Clegg in charge and hope we get someone decent next time.

Tom4784 24-04-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3185323)
The tories have always backed controlled immigration - so NO they are not all the same. As for caring about middle and upper classes, I suggest you look at the credentials of the labour mps, most of whom are what I would term upper middle class. and most of whom have been caught with their greedy little fingers in the national till.

As for telling lies, I suggest you look no further than the spin doctors of the Labour Party - everyone is still searching for these weapons of mass destruction they assured us were in Iraq, and as for their figures on immigration, they are a complete work of fiction. This lot have practically bankrupted this nation, yet their answer to all problems is simply to keep borrowing and throwing money around (often to the undeserving) as if it were confetti. Remember what it was like 13 years ago when England was still recognisable? Well what we have now is all down to the New Labour criminals. No spin, no lies, just the evidence all around us that can be seen by anyone with even half a brain.

AND YET there are morons out there still prepared to subject us all to another five years under the Labour jackboot.

I'm not supporting Labour, I just don't trust Cameron as far as I can fly same goes for Brown but in the choice between the two I'd very begrudgingly vote Labour.

Like I said in the other post, they're all terrible but the Lib Dems haven't had chance to ***** it up like the other two have so let's give them a shot.

Angus 24-04-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3185326)
I'm not supporting Labour, I just don't trust Cameron as far as I can fly same goes for Brown but in the choice between the two I'd very begrudgingly vote Labour.

Like I said in the other post, they're all terrible but the Lib Dems haven't had chance to ***** it up like the other two have so let's give them a shot.

Trouble is, for most of us in the UK now, including the immigrants who are already here and established, we need to know that there are going to be the resources in society to cater for us all (i.e. housing, hospital beds and doctors, school places etc), so unfortunately the LibDems saying they will give amnesty to the alleged 1.5 million illegal immigrants which will then allow them to bring their entire families over here, is not the answer.

I suggest you do some research into Clegg - you will find he is ten times posher and more privileged than Cameron could ever dream of being. He loves to present himself as a man of the people whereas he is hugely privileged with a background that includes a 10 bedroom chateau, a 26 room skiing chalet and a family of bankers and aristocrats - a typical old Etonian, and another selfish d*ckhead who doesn't have to face the daily competion for resources we all now have to face with an ever increasing population- most of whom have never paid a penny into the system. He is probably the richest and most privileged of all of them, but he is clearly a great actor since he has everyone believing the total opposite.

That being said, so long as New Labour are kicked into obscurity I cannot see any other party making such a monumental ballsup of running the country, so a Labour defeat will be a victory for all of us.

Shasown 24-04-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3185326)

Like I said in the other post, they're all terrible but the Lib Dems haven't had chance to ***** it up like the other two have so let's give them a shot.

Excuse me the Liberal party managed to muck up that little party at the start of last century World War 1 I think its referred to. No wonder they havent been allowed back in power since. Voters have long memories you know.

Tom4784 24-04-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3185335)
Trouble is, for most of us in the UK now, including the immigrants who are already here and established, we need to know that there are going to be the resources in society to cater for us all (i.e. housing, hospital beds and doctors, school places etc), so unfortunately the LibDems saying they will give amnesty to the alleged 1.5 million illegal immigrants which will then allow them to bring their entire families over here, is not the answer.

I suggest you do some research into Clegg - you will find he is ten times posher and more privileged than Cameron could ever dream of being. He loves to present himself as a man of the people whereas he is hugely privileged with a background that includes a 10 bedroom chateau, a 26 room skiing chalet and a family of bankers and aristocrats - a typical old Etonian, and another selfish d*ckhead who doesn't have to face the daily competion for resources we all now have to face with an ever increasing population- most of whom have never paid a penny into the system. He is probably the richest and most privileged of all of them, but he is clearly a great actor since he has everyone believing the total opposite.

That being said, so long as New Labour are kicked into obscurity I cannot see any other party making such a monumental ballsup of running the country, so a Labour defeat will be a victory for all of us.


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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3185336)
Excuse me the Liberal party managed to muck up that little party at the start of last century World War 1 I think its referred to. No wonder they havent been allowed back in power since. Voters have long memories you know.

Meh, in that case ***** 'em all.

AndyJK 24-04-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3185272)

Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

You are talking in cliches. You hate the Tories so you will say that even though you can't back it up. Or can you?

Niamh. 24-04-2010 08:46 PM

in the case of rape his fault, still not the babies

Shaun 24-04-2010 08:50 PM

Yes, well assuming he's not still around and willing to be a responsible father figure I hardly think the mother should be forced to go through a pregnancy and motherhood she didn't want. ;)

Niamh. 24-04-2010 09:26 PM

I dont think she should either I was just saying it's not the babies fault either


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