You and your stupid ignore list really need to go away. I'll be on that list with pride.

As the Aunty of a serving soldier I totally agree with you ,iraq,Afghanistan wars have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorists ,its about OIL and 300 UK soldiers have died for it ,No more

If you ask me Ben is the brainwashed upper class god save our qeen a country toff.

Nazism was supported by Prescott Bush, then 'America' + Bush joined the war against Adolf, makes you wonder who the enemy is.

Also, Adolf often made the point that he loved the british.

Was 'nazism' organised to justify war?

I thought Ben talked alot of BS. Steve was wrong though to say he insulted all the dead soldiers.

I think half the forum will be on there by the end of the series - she waves her ignore list around like a flag! Good luck to her! Ha, ha! :joker: Unfortunately she won't read this - as I'm already on there apparently! He,he!

I read books about serial killers, that does not mean that I am one or an expert on them. Ben assumes that Steve doesn't read and because of those assumptions thinks Steve's view is less valid than his own.

If ben did read about the causes of the war, he would know that Nevile failed in his attempt at peace with Hitler. Hitler was going to war no matter what and a treaty with britain wasn't going to stop him!

I happen to believe that the Iraq war was started illegally, on the whim of a US president who, lets face it, was a bit dim. But Ben has foot in mouth disease and should have put his view across more tactfully.

Lets not forget Steve(Action Man/Gi Joe ) served a maximum of 2 years in the army

hes been slowly going down for me
i dislike him and almost hate him

Steve wasn't fighting for 'His' country, or anyone else's - he was in occupied territory, acting as a peace keeper between two opposing factions of society.

May I ask have you laid your life on the line for your Country?

whats that got to do with anything? It was long enough for him to lose both legs.

A dangerous job by anybody's standards -and he paid a hefty price - pretty much amounts to the same thing - he was injured doing his duty as a soldier! Brave man in my book!

Not in the sense you refer to. But i would for the sake of the prosperity of the English, i wouldn't need paying for it either.

Talk is cheap!

Lots of my friends are active forces and most of them try not to think to about the political realities, they are simply a tool, a shield and deterrent which is vital for the security of the UK. They can't choose the battles.

They are what I think of as true citizens and deserve respect from all of us. I would like to say they're opinions should be held in a higher regard, but the reality is that they are no more enlightened than anyone else. Like any group of people there are some assholes in the mix.

But you can hardly call them brainwashed, you don't join the army to get rich :) .

That's a fair comment, so I'll rephrase my question to the OP. Are you a Soldier, male or female, who has come under fire or been in a situation where your life was threatened because of being in the forces?

Irony.

Well this country's in a desperate state, the English have been trodden on bigtime and continue to be so, the English are waking up, at some point somethings got to give because the English love our land more than the others.

Then in which sense have you laid down your life? If you can't reply to that, then fair enough.

He did mention America because i remember him saying about them coming in late.

There hasn't been a situation in which to do so. Ask me after that situation arises.

So he mentioned America in reference to WWI? There you go, he was specifically talking about WWII and not modern times.