But teens don't realize that. They have their ipods and playstations. Isn't world just peace loving place? Only UK soldiers are making it worse....

Everytime you scream about teens and social welfare, all the rest of us hear is 'I'm a bitter old bag'.

Thats a valid way of seeing it, I get where your coming from.

I personally just don't being a career soldier makes you a hero... it earns you my respect and my thanks, but the word 'hero' has become overused and devalued I think.

So who did blow him up then? But don't get me wrong, i don't hate Ireland.

Mojo, please... I am obviously not a teen and am making a valid point.

This is my view.

Also, going back to MojoNixon and his use of the term 'Irish pr1cks', I think this is why many of us have our doubts about Steve. He seems like the person who off camera would say things like that.

A bit of a MojoNixon, if you will.

Maybe i should be. After all, i work my arse off every night. What do you do?
But again, i don't have anything against you. And i won't gonna continue fight with you. You are OK.

Terrorists blew him up. I don't see what nationality has to do with it. They are Irish terrorists, yes, but the English have not all recently become a nation of pr1cks becuase Raoul Moat done a nut.

No you don't. I remeber you Che Guevara avatar, so i do know EXACTLY what you are thinking.

I work too, you know. It's this prepostrous assumptive attitude I don't like :wink:.

We've turned into the kind of country where people, especially teens, like you say, spout the most unadulterated rubbish about the military. Their ignorance of the subject doesn't stand in the way of them making a snap judgement. Shame... We've turned into the kind of place that laughs at someone for being injured in a terrorist action, and build shrines to people like Raoul Moat.

I said earlier that i don't have anything against Ireland. And sorry about that term. But why are you referring me to Steve? Just think by yourself.

But again, i'm not gonna fight with you because you are OK. But vesavius is a another story, he IS terrorist sympathizer.

Wrong.
He volunteered to take that explosion. He did that when he signed up to serve. You need to understand that.
If he didn't do that on purpose then you or I would eventually be in line for it. Probably me. I'm not as brave as Steve but I have a feeling your less likely to be counted on if it comes to it.
The good news is that Steve volunteered to take that explosion first and so it will never make it to your front door or mine.

Steve is a dull HM?
One of the reasons you even get to watch entertaining HMs in a program called BB is BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE STEVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The sad.. I mean just pathetic, sad and even downright disgusting things is when people don't even understand that.
That is a ****ing tragedy that far too many spoiled young people don't understand why their iPhone and BB voting parties and entertaining programs are OWED to the Steves of this world.

Anyways.. I also find him an intriguing HM so its all good for me.

Fair dues.

And yes, I am well clued up on Che Guevara.

Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom! :hugesmile:

Would love to see if he was so brave if he did live in Iran ;)

I asked Livia for her location so we could duke it out in a boxing ring, but alas no response.

Run along now.

It's the internet, WOMBAI. And it's not as if I haven't had discussions about the military with people face to face before. So what do you suggest I do?

And what does that make you? Coming in for another attack? Also a keyboard warrior?

Can I score! :hugesmile:

Because the point of this thread was to dispel this nonsense others drone on about - even Davina and some of the housemates - to justify how bigotted he is and how nasty he was to Keeley 'because he's a hero'.

As far as I remember, he didn't exactly jump in front of the bomb he was just unlucky in that he happened to be walking along at the wrong time. He didn't 'take the blast' it was forced upon him.

If you haven't noticed, this is an internet forum, everyone stands behind their keyboards, yourself included. You call me a pansy but are you in the army? I some how doubt that.

ROFL @ Wombai in this conversation!

... wha?

A goal? A nice big bag of opium? A man?

Oh PLEASE tell me you are not comparing Northern Ireland to Iran?!

MrGaryy. Age, location and political orientation please.

Elaborate please! :hugesmile:

I think she wants to be the referee!

erm, would you like my bank details while I'm at it?

I wasn't aware I was in a match :tongue:.

Oh well, read the title. Twas' always going to be a nasty one.

Well why not. If you gonna be blasted in iran or ireland, what is the difference after all? They both hate UK soldiers. Are you saying that Steve did have a church pin-nic over there in Ireland back then?

Yes, I know I am - but I am not condeming the soldiers for what they do am I - I support them! I admire their bravery!

Don't be so facetious, of course I'm not saying that. But the Northern Ireland troubles looks like a day out in Alton Towers compared to the situation in Iran, lets be honest.

No. But age and political orientation please. And are you teen?. And just please tell me are you immigrant or are you living in Ireland or not. Just simple little question. I ain't no hacker or "spy" or anything, so don't worry. I ain't gonna hack on your computer. Just wanna know if you hate Steve just because he reminds you of your dad or is it political issue.

You said you were gonna have a boxing match, jokingly, and I jokingly responded - that I would like to referee! What's not to get! :conf: Fool!

Neither are my.

Oops. Looks like you jumped in the deep end of the wrong pool. Again.

Fool.

Northern Ireland was a very dangerous place to be for soldiers back then - so there really isn't that much difference!

Have to say, that flew way over my head. I didn't know that was boxing terminology for a ref.

I thought the judges scored, myself.

Exactly, like i said earlier. But teens just don't get that.

Yes I am a teen, 17 to be precise, with Irish parents if that helps. I'm a Republican but I assure you that is irrelevant with regards to my dislike for Steve. Oh and my dad is a company director of a small chains of restaurants, internet cafes and hostels among other ventures so no, I can't say I see any similarity between my father and Steve.

Yes I am fully aware of that, I'm not as totally ignorant as you and MojoNixon seem to assume because of my age. But I'm also aware of the situation in Iran and however dangerous N.Ireland was at the time, they are still not comparable imo.

So living with your dad money...too bad you don't know or even understand how it was back then.

You are just stupid, now i can see that. Go and ask some money from your dad. OK?