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Yayita 12-07-2012 01:41 PM

Dudes, I missed this whole thread... It went completely awry.

My 2 cents? If your a public figure, which for the time being Scott is. You expose yourself to the public and their curiosity, therefore it is completely normal for people to want to know what happened and for them to opine on the matter... Thats what happens when you are on tv and a pseudo celebrity, it is always open season.

Lostalex, Im sorry about your lost, I lost my dad in 2007 and its quite painfull and I understand the feeling. However, not everyone understands it and so you should play it close to your chest and not invest your emotions into a forum with people who wont completely understand....Just my opinion love.

lostalex 12-07-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yayita (Post 5296357)
Dudes, I missed this whole thread... It went completely awry.

My 2 cents? If your a public figure, which for the time being Scott is. You expose yourself to the public and their curiosity, therefore it is completely normal for people to want to know what happened and for them to opine on the matter... Thats what happens when you are on tv and a pseudo celebrity, it is always open season.

Lostalex, Im sorry about your lost, I lost my dad in 2007 and its quite painfull and I understand the feeling. However, not everyone understands it and so you should play it close to your chest and not invest your emotions into a forum with people who wont completely understand....Just my opinion love.

thanks Yay, i agree, obviously some people don't wanna hear about how it really is, so i shouldn't share my own personal experiences, because i' just get torn down for it.

I love this forum, and i feel like it's a community, sometimes i forget that some people will use that kind of thing against me. yur right, i shouldn't disclose such personal things in the future.

Yayita 12-07-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5296375)
thanks Yay, i agree, obviously some people don't wanna hear about how it really is, so i shouldn't share my own personal experiences, because i' just get torn down for it.

I love this forum, and i feel like it's a community, sometimes i forget that some people will use that kind of thing against me. yur right, i shouldn't disclose such personal things in the future.

:flowers: you can bitch at me in private if you need to

sarakss 12-07-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5295974)
Well if you can't respect someone's right to privacy over something as personal as that, then what do you have respect for? Certainly you've got to draw the line somewhere, don't you agree?

You need to chill out because OP asked a very valid question and his question was not disrespectful. He did not ask WHY Scott remained in the house after his sister died, he asked if he attended her funeral - a question ALMOST everyone would ask.


OP, I did have the same questions as you because the only time I'd heard Scott mention his sister was when he talked about their role-playing games with Caroline and the fight with Becky.

I even started doubting if his sister had passed away because he's handling himself like nothing happened and there's only one article that claimed it was his sister.

lostalex 12-07-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5296423)
You need to chill out because OP asked a very valid question and his question was not disrespectful. He did not ask WHY Scott remained in the house after his sister died, he asked if he attended her funeral - a question ALMOST everyone would ask.


OP, I did have the same questions as you because the only time I'd heard Scott mention his sister was when he talked about their role-playing games with Caroline and the fight with Becky.

I even started doubting if his sister had passed away because he's handling himself like nothing happened and there's only one article that claimed it was his sister.

i need to chill out? when did i say anything that wasn't "chill"?

sarakss 12-07-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5296196)
i havn't said anything rude. If i did i'm sure you would have given me an infraction by now.

Your responses since the start of this thread have been rude and dismissive.

lostalex 12-07-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5296570)
Your responses since the start of this thread have been rude and dismissive.

the OP was rude and dismissive by your standards.

sarakss 12-07-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5296436)
i need to chill out? when did i say anything that wasn't "chill"?

Let me take a step back because I don't want to seem as if I'm jumping on you. The OP, IMO, asked a valid question many people are wondering about because no one saw anything about him leaving the house.

I can't speak for everyone, but I find it really odd that 1. he's still in the house and 2. he's handling himself so 'well'. People grieve in different ways and for some people who may have not experienced that loss or reacted differently when they experienced a loss, his reaction is baffling.

Enough about that and back to your statement. When the OP asked the question, right from the start your response was rude and dismissive. You could have worded it differently, but reading it seemed like a hostile response. You might have as well said 'shut your fcuking mouth!'

sarakss 12-07-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5296586)
the OP was rude and dismissive by your standards.

How can the OP be dismissive by asking a question? Asking a question is inviting a response, not trying to silence someone.

lostalex 12-07-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5296594)
Let me take a step back because I don't want to seem as if I'm jumping on you. The OP, IMO, asked a valid question many people are wondering about because no one saw anything about him leaving the house.

I can't speak for everyone, but I find it really odd that 1. he's still in the house and 2. he's handling himself so 'well'. People grieve in different ways and for some people who may have not experienced that loss or reacted differently when they experienced a loss, his reaction is baffling.

we havn't seen much of Scott in the past few weeks atleast not since Aaron left, and i totally agree with what you've said about epople greiving in different ways. I'm not seeing how you can accusse me of saying anything offensive or aggressive, it sounds like we are agreeing!!

my innitial response was not dismissive or hostile. I said it was none of OUR business. How is that dismissive or offensive? It's not any of our business. how can i say that in any other way?

sarakss 12-07-2012 03:02 PM

When I read it, that's how it appeared. That's the internet for you - when we try to get to the point to make it short and sweet, it may read a different way.

I see what you mean when you say it's no one's business how people grieve, but when you put your life on TV, people will ask questions and make judgments. How many times has Ashleigh been labeled a ***** and all that for what she's done. Just as people can label you as funny or nice, they can also question what you do whether or not it relates to the show.

vikram84 12-07-2012 03:07 PM

I read Step-Sister.

KingOfTheMods 12-07-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5295925)
who are you to judge anyone's response to something that personal? It's none of your business and has nothing to do with the TV show Big Brother.

That's you laying the law down I'm afraid. And your presumption that anyone with a different point of view to you on this is staggering. I lost my stepdad and grandmother (who more or less raised me) within 2 months of each other so I know a lot about personal loss. As can be seen by the posts here people have differing views on it and that's what makes this a discussion not a dictatorship.

lostalex 12-07-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods (Post 5296851)
That's you laying the law down I'm afraid. And your presumption that anyone with a different point of view to you on this is staggering. I lost my stepdad and grandmother (who more or less raised me) within 2 months of each other so I know a lot about personal loss. As can be seen by the posts here people have differing views on it and that's what makes this a discussion not a dictatorship.

I'm not a mod, so i cannot lay down any law. I'm glad you shared yur personal experience, cause i don't like being the only one. I just said that i think people should not have to be judged on national TV for how they react. I didn't attack or "shut down" anyone bro. I'm sorry for your loss, and i'm gladd you didn't have to suffer any of the scrutiny that Scott is facing here.

i know you posted this in disagreement to me, but i think we agree. We both know that dealing with death in the family should not be subjected to judgment on TV.

I don;'t think i truly dealt with my mom's death emotionally til atleast a year after she was gone. The idea that you should be in pieces and destroyed right after is ridiculous to me.

Redway 12-07-2012 04:12 PM

..We're all judges of morality here and whilst I don't think it's right that people are judged based on what they do it's totally called for as people are supposed to be judging him based on his character and what he does. I understand what lostalex is saying but you have to allow for different points of view.

KingOfTheMods 12-07-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5296866)
I'm not a mod, so i cannot lay down any law. I'm glad you shared yur personal experience, cause i don't like being the only one. I just said that i think people should not have to be judged on national TV for how they react. I didn't attack or "shut down" anyone bro. I'm sorry for your loss, and i'm gladd you didn't have to suffer any of the scrutiny that Scott is facing here.

i know you posted this in disagreement to me, but i think we agree. We both know that dealing with death in the family should not be subjected to judgment on TV.

I don;'t think i truly dealt with my mom's death emotionally til atleast a year after she was gone. The idea that you should be in pieces and destroyed right after is ridiculous to me.

I agree with you up to a point mate. Whatever's happened, for him to carry on living his life on national television then speculation and questions are to be expected. How coud they not. How can you ask people to respect your privacy when your laying yourself bare to the world.

joeysteele 12-07-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5296342)
A funeral only takes like an hour, maybe a few hours for the wake or whatever.

It would be very easy to slip away and the HL shows not say anything about it.

Scott wanted to keep it to himself (he said this when he was informed of the death, when he came back out of the DR) and I think his/his families privacy should be respected tbh

Definately I agree with this.

Also Lostalex, I am really sad to learn of your loss and no,the fact you didn't want to be involved in the planning or whatever of your Mum's funeral etc, does not mean in any way you cared less for her.
Grief affects people in all different ways.
As Vicky said, even when Scott came back after leaving the house at the time of the death, he didn't want to discuss it when he came back, that is his full and total right.

When my Grandmother died, one of her Daughters,my Aunt, couldn't face anything as to it, the funeral or house full of people etc, she didn't attend the funeral even,went off on a trip until all was over, she had lived with My Grandmother all her life but grief has no norm as to thought, feeling or action.

Which is why Scott has every right not to discuss it at all and also to be solidly protected by BB from having to in the house too if he needs that.

Whether Scott attended the funeral or not,is for him to reveal and just because he is on BB,it is not also right for them to disclose if he did or not without his consent. That has nothing to do with wrong or right but is all about respect and decency for him, his late Sister and his family too..

1311 12-07-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5296887)
..We're all judges of morality here and whilst I don't think it's right that people are judged based on what they do it's totally called for as people are supposed to be judging him based on his character and what he does. I understand what lostalex is saying but you have to allow for different points of view.

That!

muchadoaboutnothing 12-07-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5296423)
You need to chill out because OP asked a very valid question and his question was not disrespectful. He did not ask WHY Scott remained in the house after his sister died, he asked if he attended her funeral - a question ALMOST everyone would ask.


OP, I did have the same questions as you because the only time I'd heard Scott mention his sister was when he talked about their role-playing games with Caroline and the fight with Becky.

I even started doubting if his sister had passed away because he's handling himself like nothing happened and there's only one article that claimed it was his sister.

Thank you Sarakass. I was just wondering if Scott had left the house to attend the relatives funeral. I had no intention of criticizing Scott if he did or didn't as that would be a personal matter for him. But as BB fans (viewers) we are entitled to enquire (wonder) about HMs, I would have thought that part of the BB experience for HMs is a warts and all for viewers to share.


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