It's nothing to do with the songs ,it's political imo, our entry was quite catchy and equally as good as the rest of those songs and singers in there, I don't know why we embarrass ourselves every year,having said that we might just get a shock result one year.Good old Britain is only good enough to live in.

The Spice Girls need to do a greatest hits medley

Not sure we can win again but one of our problems also seem to have been opening it up to the public voting too.

After all, Joe and Jack were in a fair placing just from the jury voting.

One day we may just get a breakthrough,after all after Bucks Fizz win in 1981,we had to wait 16 years again before Katrina won it in 1997.

We have always had a problem in gathering in enough votes and looking at the breakdown of how the voting went from Italy, France, Germany, Spain,Belgium,Israel,Sweden,Norway and particularly the former Yugoslav countries too,there was nothing there at all from any of them.

Do you think it would ever be possible for betting to be scrapped? I don't really know how it pros to be completely honest, but there's always an unfair hype around those who are the favourites. The media capitalise it and then all of the attention is on the select few favourites to win by the time the final comes.

i think we need to invade some of the made up countries and destroy them

@bosnia, montewhatthefeck, croatia, armenia, azerbywhatsit etc

we need to get militarised

Maybe come out of our comfort zone? Sing in another language?

This wouldn't of won but it'll have achieved more votes I think

We need Scotland, NI and Wales to become independent states, then do deals along with Malta and other countries that don't mind us to give each other 12 points on a rota basis so we win every few years, I remember when Ireland won back to back victories and everyone was moaning about the cost of hosting it :joker:

We aren't a popular country in the EU and we don't share any borders with anyone. The winner will always be either politically motivated or it'll be simply a good song from a neutral country. We've got an unfavourable position with EU to deal with as well as resentment for automatically making the finals.

Can't blame anyone for not wanting to spend money on making an effort given that the last time we went all out we barely scraped fifth. You can't blame established acts for not wanting to do it since no one with a career wants to be a joke.

Yeah Darline and Bianca were both better than Joe and Jake tbh

Agree with this part. If we actually had to earn our way into the competition we'd be more likely to pick up support along the way.

France has proven that if you send a good act then you can do well. They normally do far worse than is but had quite a good result last night.

The UK needs to come out of the competition. Waste of money and time.

but look at what won, a total dirge that no one can even remember today

so there is not logic to it

That's not strictly true, LT. A lot of people loved that song but many hated it at the same time. It was marmite, which is the perfect thing to be in Eurovision.