[Denver]

They send their best song since 2009 but still Europe wont vote for us so whats next?

I honestly think the UK needs a break.

[Amy Jade]

We couldn't win with Beyoncé tbh

[Cherie]

Neighbouring countries that like it

[Headie]

It wasn't even that good of a song idk what y'all were expecting

They need to take it seriously again, get a top composer to write the song, do a search for the best singer/performer and promote it throughout Europe non stop like they did with Jade. It's not complicated to see we're sending trash every year

[Samm]

Jack & Joe weren't all that, they were ok but nothing special, we need something different and unique (by that not something like Electra Velvet)

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Samm

Jack & Joe weren't all that, they were ok but nothing special, we need something different and unique (by that not something like Electra Velvet)

I agree they weren't special but they were definately more deserving than the televote awarded them.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I agree they weren't special but they were definately more deserving than the televote awarded them.

Definitely,I agree.

[Amy Jade]

I hope we don't drop out though, I don't think it would run without us?

[LukeB]

Spice Girls

[MTVN]

Agree with Hayden. It's simple really - we need to put the effort in. This country has a strange relationship with Eurovision where we treat it is a joke, send a very average act and then act surprised when we don't do very well. Tbh I thought Jack and Joe were poor and would have put them in my bottom 5, sounded flat and it was low key and didn't stand out at all. Yeah there's always gonna be an element of political/neighbourly voting but we could still challenge if we really wanted to.

[zakman440]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Agree with Hayden. It's simple really - we need to put the effort in. This country has a strange relationship with Eurovision where we treat it is a joke, send a very average act and then act surprised when we don't do very well. Tbh I thought Jack and Joe were poor and would have put them in my bottom 5, sounded flat and it was low key and didn't stand out at all. Yeah there's always gonna be an element of political/neighbourly voting but we could still challenge if we really wanted to.

Pretty much.

Just had a random thought - it would never happen but I wonder how different it would be if ITV took over the selection/broadcasting in the UK. Like the BBC, they're a member of the EBU (along with Channel 4, S4C in Wales and STV in Scotland). Again, it would never happen, but I wonder how ITV would treat the competition.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by zakman440

Pretty much.

Just had a random thought - it would never happen but I wonder how different it would be if ITV took over the selection/broadcasting in the UK. Like the BBC, they're a member of the EBU (along with Channel 4, S4C in Wales and STV in Scotland). Again, it would never happen, but I wonder how ITV would treat the competition.

It would be a six hour marathon with all the ad breaks

[Pete.]

I can never win Eurovision again imo. We were lucky to do well with Jade but I feel that there's no formula to winning Eurovision unless for overt geographical/political reasons/statements or occasionally good songs or luck. You can't make a winning formula and song from Eurovision it just all how the votes line up and it's usually nothing to do with the song

[_Tom_]

Adele.

[Mitchell]

Judging by tonight's winner, a political song

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Judging by tonight's winner, a political song

Not a song about the battle of hastings?

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Not a song about the battle of hastings?

Can't wait for next year when every country sends a song about what the other countries have done to them, it's like indirect tweet vision.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Judging by tonight's winner, a political song

Here for Billy Bragg singing about David Cameron ****ing a pig, food banks and how we want back in the EU

[Amy Jade]

I don't think we can just blame Geography either, look at Australia...They just sent a great singer and song and they did brilliantly.

[Braden]

Yeah, I feel sorry for them because there was a slight hype that probably made them feel like they were going to do well. The juries giving us a fair amount of points also caused a bit of a kick in teeth when it was found that we did really badly on the televoting...eek.

I did find the performance really average imo. I think it was wishful thinking because the two guys were really nice people, but it's like others have said; we need to take the competition seriously to do well. This year and Molly's year were marginal improvements, but we're still entering really average songs/singers. It's not going to cut it when other countries take the contest so seriously.

[EspeonBB]

We need to send a great song (Joe & Jake weren't bad but they weren't amazing either) and actually put effort into the staging. I don't think it's a geographical thing because Australia did well this year and they have no neighbours to vote for them

[Denver]

I think we should ask a American artist to do it since they won it for us last time

[Samm]

tbh if I wasn't from the UK I wouldn't of remembered our song

[LukeB]

Russia was only favourite to win because of their staging and the effects.. we need something like that.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Russia was only favourite to win because of their staging and the effects.. we need something like that.

I wouldn't say that's exactly true; the song was favourite to win before the staging or effects had been planned. But you're definitely right about us doing something a bit more special.