And yet you try so hard.

And yes, you've made your point. The government is to blame.

Then that would come after the reasoning of the thoughts wouldn't it? My point was I don't blindly follow the majority view.

I know very well you're not always right but It's very noble of you to admit it. Thank you.

And very ignoble that you don't.

Yes its a sad story

I'm leaving the discussion as I feel this comment is baiting. My view on this was clarified earlier.

Whatever...

Yeah I agree with this. It may have been what finally pushed him over the edge, but if it was not this fine it could be something equally as trivial.

when you are desperate you mind is not always thinking to its best ability and for these sharks to exploit your weakness - shame on them.

horrid story.

There is no shame in collecting a legal debt

there is however shame in avoiding paying one

A lot of these parking tickets are not fines, at least in the legal sense, they are invoices. An official ticket (that normally now arrives by post) will have the heading, "Penalty Charge Notice". An unofficial ticket will have the heading, "Parking Charge Notice". I've had a ticket (not a fine) in my place of work for not properly displaying my parking pass. I disputed this with my employers/land owners and it was cancelled.

People need to learn the difference between a fine and an invoice because as long as its not something selfish, like blocking access or parking in a disabled zone without a disabled badge, you can usually get those tickets cancelled.

I dont think it is trivial to be harassed by bailiffs and then have your most important possession in your life, and only source of income, taken from you.

This man was backed into a corner and the only way he could see out was to hang himself in a forest. How alone he must have felt.

I've read up on this case and it sounds like the appointed bailiff did everything by the book. That though, doesn't mean all bailiffs dutifully follow regulations. A lot of bailiffs illegally harass a person they are trying to collect a debt from and the law would say, there is a lot of shame in that.

As for feeling shame if you avoid debt, people often avoid debt once they have reached the stage of anxiety and even depression. People who avoid a debt that is being chased will often feel helplessness, fear and shame. They don't need others telling them they should feel ashamed.

I hope to god if my kids ever get in debt, they can come to me and talk about it and let me help them sort it out. I would hate them to feel ashamed and alone.

Yall act as though having bailiffs come to your house is a normal weekly occurrence. Actually probs is for yous.