Anti fa are violent towards who? Would you class them as terrorists, what acts of terror have they committed?

He's gonna be pissed when he finds out what the fa stands for.

I wouldn't call them terrorists, no. They're just a bunch of thugs who hold violent protests.

The antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is composed of left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist[7] groups and individuals in the United States.[11] The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action,[12] with conflicts occurring both online and in real life.[13] They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.[20]

Activists involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists[21] and subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They include anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.[28] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means.[27]
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I mean our soldiers fought fascists with violent means. Antifa is simply continuing the tradition

Lol that's what they say, but when have they demonstrably targeted fascists? Smashing up university campuses because people they don't like are having speaking events isn't fighting fascism.

Agree that it's not very relevant here but violence is pretty integral to far left ideology as anyone who's familiar with it would know..

I have no problem with the term far right but I do have a problem with it's liberal use where everyone from classical liberals to nationalists, from one nation conservatives to neo-nazis, are all grouped under one banner of 'far right'

White extremists would be better.

What are you talking about?
Who ever called one nation conservatives far right?:conf:
You're making things up now.
The same goes for classical liberals and nationalists. The last one can be considered hard right depending on how far they go.
Only extremists are far right.
It's no good blurring the lines to prove your non existent point.

And btw it's not just violence that matters. It's how hateful the ideology is too.

And as Corbyn is classed as far left and his supporters I'm sure there are many cases where he and his followers have been or incited violence due to how integral it is to the ideology?...

Corbyn is in power because of Momentum, and they ARE a bunch of thugs. If the cap fits....

I was talking more about people even further left tbh although McDonnell has certainly praised violence in the past

That is not true he was selected via his fellow MPs and kept as leader by the Labour membership. Stop spreading misinformation.

Yes.... he is. They are not nice people.

Who then? Back up your claims... Stating 'people very far left are violent' is a misnomer, I'd be interested to see the mcdonnell quote too.
This is the issue I have with people intimating there is a problem equal to that of that found in terror is acts Bourne of extreme right wing ideology... it's terribly scant on detail and heavy on opinion.

Far right describes the people best really.

The problem are the moderates that are clearly right leaning but don't like the label. They aren't moderates, they are right wing but are too scared to own it and centrism has been invaded by these cowards thus centrism is rapidly becoming an apologist leaning for the right. You get the occasional actual centrist but most of them are Right Wing that are fearful of the label.

That is what enlightened centrism is, apologists for the Right while drawing bad faith comparisons to make both sides look bad when it's simply not the case.

That's your opinion, its not based on any fact

Moderates to my view can lean slightly left or right depending on the issue

Yes, thank you for highlighting an opinion is an opinion, what would we do if we didn't have you to state the obvious? We'd surely be lost.

Telling someone that their opinion is an opinion isn't a counter argument, it's a nothing response.

Again, thank you for highlighting what a moderate is while missing the point of what I'm saying completely. Yes, that is a moderate but if you read what I said properly, you'd have known that I was saying that moderates are basically being taken over by the soft right wing. A centrist is someone who can go either way depending on an issue, it's not someone who tries to make out both sides are the same while being favourable to the other, that's just bad faith.

No need to be so salty, seems like I hit a nerve maybe

Any evidence to back this up, do you really know what every moderate is thinking?