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Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 01:49 PM

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And the "homophobic post of the week" award goes to..............

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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.

How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm going to rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless c**p like that!
Stropz was right, your post was terribly homophobic. And more, that's something big, you said you have any problem with gay people but for you, seeing that when you are eating is a problem...that's quite strange isn"t it ? Why it could be different to see that than to see a straight couple ? Just explain to me why and as you said "rub your two brain cells together" :thumbs:

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
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Originally posted by Stropz
And the "homophobic post of the week" award goes to..............

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx
Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.

How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm going to rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless c**p like that!
Stropz was right, your post was terribly homophobic. And more, that's something big, you said you have any problem with gay people but for you, seeing that when you are eating is a problem...that's quite strange isn"t it ? Why it could be different to see that than to see a straight couple ? Just explain to me why and as you said "rub your two brain cells together" :thumbs:
Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?

Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 01:59 PM

Accept that because you will see more natural behaviours like this in the next years ! The society changes !

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 01:59 PM

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Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
Do you have a problem in seeing a man and woman kiss? Any why is it "natural" for a man and woman? You are saying it is unatural for two men then. Is it also unatural for 2 women?

~Kizwiz~ 19-06-2007 02:00 PM

Two men kissing doesnt offend me.... neither does 2 girls.

I dont see the fuss to be fair.

If seeing two men kissing offends someone but not 2 women or a man and a women then I would concider this to be a homophobic comment.

Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 02:01 PM

I didn't think about this Luva ! :tongue: Well done !

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 02:02 PM

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I didn't think about this Luva ! :tongue: Well done !
Well everyone is a human being and has feelings. Gay, straight, bisexual, whatever! As long as noone is hurting anyone else, I don't see what the problem is?

Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 02:08 PM

In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:13 PM

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Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
Do you have a problem in seeing a man and woman kiss? Any why is it "natural" for a man and woman? You are saying it is unatural for two men then. Is it also unatural for 2 women?
Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?

~Kizwiz~ 19-06-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.
So its unnatural, but not wrong????

Dr43%er 19-06-2007 02:17 PM

Two women kissing is the most natural thing in the world. I witnessed it once and it rocked, so it is natural. Fact. (cross thread sarcasm mode turned off) off you go ladies, lez up like there is no tomorrow.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:18 PM

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Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.
So its unnatural, but not wrong????
That's what I said yes :puzzled:

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Dr43%er
Two women kissing is the most natural thing in the world. I witnessed it once and it rocked, so it is natural. Fact. (cross thread sarcasm mode turned off) off you go ladies, lez up like there is no tomorrow.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :joker:

Dr43%er 19-06-2007 02:19 PM

I am sure it is very natural for the people involved.

Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 02:20 PM

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In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?
"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ? :pat:

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

So your point here now is that gay people are "unatural" because they can't reproduce? And in your view men and women were put on this earth to reproduce? Feelings don't come into it at all? Do me a favour, and ask some gay people, had they the choice, would they rather be straight or gay? You may be surprised by some of the answers some people come out with, all because of the bigotry in todays society and the intolerance some people have.

You say that it's not wrong, but you clearly have a problem with it if you can't stand to see 2 men or 2 men kissing. I view them as people. Maybe you need to open your mind and view things differently, as it is clearly you that has the problem. Think about it.

Psylocke 19-06-2007 02:23 PM

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Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
Do you have a problem in seeing a man and woman kiss? Any why is it "natural" for a man and woman? You are saying it is unatural for two men then. Is it also unatural for 2 women?
Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.
i think you are trying to be correct just maybe going about it the wrong way.

think of it like this,if a man and woman were unable to have children would they be wrong and against nature? see how that sounds,not very nice.

Homosexuality is as old as humans are,its always been here,in history around the world in some places it was even recognised and celebrated.

Its also apparent in nearly every species,did you know peguin males mate for life,even adopting baby peguins as there own.


Homosexuality is just another human trait,thats more dominant in some males and females than others (tho its been argued that 99% of humans are not 100% straight).

its our society thats making it unnatural not nature.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:27 PM

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In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?
"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ? :pat:
So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?

Psylocke 19-06-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?
"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ? :pat:
So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?
LOL,yes :laugh:

Captain.Remy 19-06-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?
"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ? :pat:
So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?
How to say that...YES ! And don't be proud of this really, it's a shame for you ! :yuk:

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

So your point here now is that gay people are "unatural" because they can't reproduce? And in your view men and women were put on this earth to reproduce? Feelings don't come into it at all? Do me a favour, and ask some gay people, had they the choice, would they rather be straight or gay? You may be surprised by some of the answers some people come out with, all because of the bigotry in todays society and the intolerance some people have.

You say that it's not wrong, but you clearly have a problem with it if you can't stand to see 2 men or 2 men kissing. I view them as people. Maybe you need to open your mind and view things differently, as it is clearly you that has the problem. Think about it.
I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm gonna abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?
Definitely. Don't you realise that?

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 02:48 PM

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I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm going to abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

Apologies. You said you "don't like seeing 2 men kiss" and "not something I particularly want to see on my TV screen when i'm eating". "Stand" was obviously the wrong word to choose.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 02:52 PM

According to Wikipedia:

Homophobia is the irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. It can also mean hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexual people, sexual behavior, or cultures, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry.

I certainly do not fear homosexuals.
I do not hate or discriminate against homosexuals and their sexuality.
I'm not hostile towards them.
I do not disapprove homosexuality, homosexual people, sexual behaviour and cultures.
Nor am I predjudice towards gay people.

I'm sorry Psylocke but I disagree with you.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:00 PM

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I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm going to abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

Apologies. You said you "don't like seeing 2 men kiss" and "not something I particularly want to see on my TV screen when i'm eating". "Stand" was obviously the wrong word to choose.
Apology accepted.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

I do not disapprove homosexuality, homosexual people, sexual behaviour and cultures.

You obviously do as you said it was unnatural.

From the free dictionary:

unnatural: In violation of natural feelings; inhuman.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm going to abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

Apologies. You said you "don't like seeing 2 men kiss" and "not something I particularly want to see on my TV screen when i'm eating". "Stand" was obviously the wrong word to choose.
Apology accepted.
Thanks ever so much.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:12 PM

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I do not disapprove homosexuality, homosexual people, sexual behaviour and cultures.

You obviously do as you said it was unnatural.

From the free dictionary:

unnatural: In violation of natural feelings; inhuman.
No, me disapproving would be me sitting here and saying it's wrong to be gay.
I'm genuinely sorry if i'm hurting anyone's feelings here because that is not my intention.

Psylocke 19-06-2007 03:14 PM

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I'm sorry Psylocke but I disagree with you.
Disagree with me about what?,i was the one saying you were just wording yourself wrong.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:19 PM

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No, me disapproving would be me sitting here and saying it's wrong to be gay.
I'm genuinely sorry if i'm hurting anyone's feelings here because that is not my intention.
The fact is you used the word unnatural.

I hope you have taken peoples thoughts on board and this has at least been a thought provoking thread for you.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:36 PM

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No, me disapproving would be me sitting here and saying it's wrong to be gay.
I'm genuinely sorry if i'm hurting anyone's feelings here because that is not my intention.
The fact is you used the word unnatural.

I hope you have taken peoples thoughts on board and this has at least been a thought provoking thread for you.
Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess. Being brought up amongst men my entire life you should be able to understand why I dont like seeing them kiss. Women I can handle, men not so much. :wink:

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:38 PM

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Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess.
Your post speaks volumes about yourself. And so does your attitude.

And I notice your mood on your avvy. Is that supposed to be funny?

~Kizwiz~ 19-06-2007 03:42 PM

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Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Its about feelings.... an emotion every human has..... each person is an individual and as such its irrelevant as to who is attracted to whom.

Not whether is it "natural" as you say.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:50 PM

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Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess.
Your post speaks volumes about yourself. And so does your attitide.
There is no attitude, i'm not gonna say i've learned loads because I haven't this thread hasn't taught me anything I didn't already know accept unnatural may be the wrong term. You can insult me all you want but you can't answer the question, so your arguments have no backbone. That speaks volumes about you.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:52 PM

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Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Its about feelings.... an emotion every human has..... each person is an individual and as such its irrelevant as to who is attracted to whom.

Not whether is it "natural" as you say.
I take your point, I dont mean to single out individuals or hurt anyones feelings at all.

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 03:54 PM

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Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess.
Your post speaks volumes about yourself. And so does your attitude.

And I notice your mood on your avvy. Is that supposed to be funny?
I changed it hoping to spread some light on the situation but obviously your sense of humour is at an all time low so i'll change it.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:54 PM

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There is no attitude, i'm not going to say i've learned loads because I haven't this thread hasn't taught me anything I didn't already know accept unnatural may be the wrong term. You can insult me all you want but you can't answer the question, so your arguments have no backbone. That speaks volumes about you.
Can't answer what question? Have you read any of my posts? I made one rather long one and all you could comment on was that you didn't say you "couldn't stand" gays. Your arrogance astounds me. Ask yourself how many members are agreeing with you here, and how many are disagreeing.

Mrluvaluva 19-06-2007 03:58 PM

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I changed it hoping to spread some light on the situation but obviously your sense of humour is at an all time low so i'll change it.
I am sure everyone on this forum knows what my sense of humour is like. Just do not find this subject one to particularly joke about unlike yourself. Hence why it is posted in "serious debates". Maybe I should post "loving the victims" in a thread on rape "just for a laugh".

xXEtchieXx 19-06-2007 04:06 PM

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Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

So your point here now is that gay people are "unatural" because they can't reproduce? And in your view men and women were put on this earth to reproduce? Feelings don't come into it at all? Do me a favour, and ask some gay people, had they the choice, would they rather be straight or gay? You may be surprised by some of the answers some people come out with, all because of the bigotry in todays society and the intolerance some people have.

You say that it's not wrong, but you clearly have a problem with it if you can't stand to see 2 men or 2 men kissing. I view them as people. Maybe you need to open your mind and view things differently, as it is clearly you that has the problem. Think about it.
I'm guessing you mean this one. :rolleyes:

I chose to ignore it because all you did was mis-quote me. When have I said gay people as a whole are unnatural because they cant reproduce? The rest is irelevant so I let it go.


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