It's ok (in fact, important) for kids to be taught that some men call themselves women and personally identify as women, just as it's OK to teach children that some people are religious and believe in various gods (these are facts about the world and society).

It's not OK to teach kids that some men ARE women, or that there IS a god (these are opinions that some believe and some don't).

Got to agree with that.

The thing is, Livia, I actually don’t disagree with you about Islam being the most anti-gay religion in the world. The reason I didn’t mention them explicitly is because it kind of almost goes without saying (not that I actively dislike the religion as a whole but in terms of Islamic perceptions of sexuality it’s been a mess from the very start). There’s no doubt about that.

teachers...:umm2:

Oh yeah these people being paid to educate children, how dare they expect to be paid fairly.

and a tiny minority of "union execs" tell them what is "fair" to justify their own jobs

what jobs get a "fair wage"?

bin men
tree-surgeons
hookers
Accountants
Roofers

?

Hardly anyone is getting fair pay rises, hence the mass dissatisfaction and strikes.

what is fair after a pandemic and with a war in Europe?

if you never lost a days wage in Pandemic how fair is bleating about wages to those that lost 12 months?

If you sat on your arse at home on full pay pretending to do a day's work in 2 hours?

dont judge SB too harshly :worry:

It's not LT's fault that he conflates economic worth to a company with "man hours" of mindless labour rather than the value of experience and the work produced ... I understand that it must be frustrating to still be nose-to-the-grindstone like that. We've all been there. Heck, we all may be back there if everything goes to **** :joker:. But why begrudge it in the meantime just because you don't have it? I've done my time damnit :fist:.

You work from home :hmph:

I have just done my work on my laptop in bed :hehe:

Kevin Ford, 54, is set to get over $400,000, the equivalent of £318,180, for his retirement.

This is in recognition of his services as an employee of Burger King where he works in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Last year, a video of Mr Ford went viral which showed him opening up a gift bag as a reward for not missing a day of work in 27 years.

Thousands of Americans were moved by the clip and believed he should be given another gift.

Since then, a GoFundme fundraiser for his retirement has been set up in his honour, which has seen donations from celebrities such as David Spade.

Currently, the campaign has raised $401,670 (£319,508.40) for Mr Ford's retirement with the goal to hit $450,000 (£357,952.50).

His daughter Seryna set up the fundraiser to help pay for her father to visit his grandchildren in Texas.

Originally, the goal was a couple of hundred dollars but has since ballooned to over $400,000 very quickly.

She shared on the page why she has set up a GoFundMe fundraiser for her father's retirement.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...e6fac569&ei=11

I shall be setting up a Cherie's very early retirement Go fund me page, please give what you can to this worthy cause

I worked Monday and have taken today as the bank holiday day off in lieu, AL day tomorrow and another bank holiday Monday :joker:. Fancied 5 days in a row off. Some people are just jealous Cherie!

I hear "no sick days in X years" and instantly assume "****er came to work sick countless times, got other people sick, and cost the company and the customers 100x more productivity than he would have if he'd just stayed home".

The idea of "come in at all costs" is such a false economy. MULTIPLE times as a manager I had a staff member come in sick (as in properly sick) "not wanting to inconvenience people" only to get 3 other members of staff sick as well. Madness. If you're ill stay at home ffs.

This.

I meeeaaaaan ... Not to demean anyone, but he only works at Burger King :joker: does it really matter if someone doesn't show up? Especially in a place where they're handling food, as you say.

it was a genuine work ethic that people had back in the day. People thought differently back then

There is no shame in honest toil.

In the UK at least, if you've had sickness or diarrhea / stomach bug it's considered a public health hazard to work with food until 48h after it stops. Are we to believe this chap didn't once have a tummy bug in several decades?? :umm2:

You mean they had shoddy employment laws and shoddy employers so they had no sick pay, and they had to turn up even when unwell (and make everyone else unwell) because otherwise they wouldn't be able to pay their bills. And they had to justify it as "work ethic", or else people would become so despondent with the rat race that they'd spiral into depression?

The good ol' days.

your framing it from todays perspective which just doesn't fit with the reality of that time

I have been on this earth for a number of decades and I can hand on heart say I have NEVER had a stomach bug. I have a stomach of steel, other than for over-consumption of alcohol I am never sick. I didn't get morning sickness either. My main weakness is a bad chest if I get a cold but I honestly have never caught a stomach bug. My kid is the same - when these bugs rip through classrooms, he has never once caught one.

It fits the reality of human history, is at the heart of modern capitalism (John Locke) but goes back much further via religion. The concept that toil = worthiness has been used to the benefit of workmasters for millenia.

A desire to work hard to better oneself or progress is good. A "work ethic" is not that, it's the (false) belief that hard work is in itself a moral good and it's own reward. Who do you think that ultimately benefits? Of course it was the lords of the land - not the serfs doing the heavy lifting. And the lords dictated the religion and thus controlled the moral narrative.

Still going on to this day. "Look at my rough hands from all the work I've done - that makes me a GOOD PERSON!", exclaimed many a bitter, neglectful, violent old man.