Those scores are not right!

Although not generally a bright bunch - anything below 70 is mentally retarded! Lisa cannot be 55 - that is ridiculous!

I wouldnt say he is intelligent, I just believe (as I had done since the Sree incident) that Marcus has the ability to put into words what others are unable to say.

A quick google search discovers this:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1047547

Assuming that it has reported BBLB correctly, and I have no reason to doubt it, then those were the figures given.

On an added note, an IQ of 55 places a person in the category "mild mental disability".

Also, we should keep in mind that we do not know the conditions of the tests carried out, nor if multiple tests were carried out to give a more accurate reading, and we should remember that all such measurements have standard deviations.

i agree that the BB IQs are no way to be trusted...anything below 80 has got to be very questionable and a score of 55 is just nonsense!!! :shocked:

Actually, 'mental retardation' is not defined so rigidly and usually involves other scales (e.g. adaptive scales) before a diagnosis is made:

Based just on IQ, the following would apply:

Class IQ
Profound mental retardation Below 20
Severe mental retardation 20–34
Moderate mental retardation 35–49
Mild mental retardation 50–69
Borderline intellectual functioning 70–79

So Lisa only has 'mild' mental retardation (haha).

I'm clever aren't I??

(Just copied it from text on retardation) :cheer2:

Thanks for that!

Those were obviously the figures given - but I still doubt the the legitamacy of them! They can't be a normal, standard IQ test - maybe they are bb's own type of test - not connected to the standard IQ test!

All seems rather odd!

How you set it out is immaterial. Marcus's quote demonstrates his confusion about an ability to not be yourself. (Contrary to his claim you can't not be yourself. Whatever you do, you will be yourself.)

I wouldn't place much faith in the iq tests and results to be honest with you, especially after witnessing Marcus' pathetic attempt at the word game. 18 words with B? That doesn't seem right to me if he possesses a superior intellect, as the test results would suggest.

for what it's worth:

Low IQ & Mental Retardation

5% of people have an IQ under 70 and this is generally considered as the benchmark for "mental retardation", a condition of limited mental ability in that it produces difficulty in adapting to the demands of life.

Severity of mental retardation can be broken into 4 levels:

50-70 - Mild mental retardation (85%)

35-50 - Moderate mental retardation (10%)

20-35 - Severe mental retardation (4%)

IQ < 20 - Profound mental retardation (1%)


from the link:

http://wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQWhatScoresMean.html

Properly conducted IQ tests do everything possible to remove any stress or pressure. The BB House aims to accentuate stress and pressure as this enhances the entertainment value. How Marcus responded in the word task is not significant.

''Marcus: You can be identical yourself, but not be yourself
Tom: What? That doesn't make any sense Marcus''

It lacks a coherent meaning and suggests to me Marcus hasn't studied Philosophy, Psychology or English.

Had Tom replied Marcus are you seeking to comment on Satres idea of the 'false self' I doubt he would have known what to say.

IQ to a degree measure a persons ability to do IQ tests and think rationally, he may have an average 'intelligence' but to say he was an eduicated chap would be a long shot.

it is these kinds of tests that have discredited IQ tests in that they are culturally balanced in favour of people who have high cultural capital i.e. people from advantaged socio economic backgrounds who have access to better education and parents who encourage learning and etc

that kind of test measures 'knowledge' not 'intelligence' the two, though linked, are quite seperate.

Didn't seem too stressed to me to tell you the truth.

Grade Range Percent
Genius 144 0.13%
Gifted 130-144 2.14%
Above average 115-129 13.59%
Higher average 100-114 34.13%
Lower average 85-99 34.13%
Below average 70-84 13.59%
Borderline low 55-69 2.14%
Low <55 0.13%

Got these IQ categories off the net! Not sure of accuracy!

I agree with what you're saying, but from listening to Marcus over the weeks it seems perfectly reasonable to assume he'd fair better than that, especially when he seems to have a fairly good command over the english language.

No, in fact Marcus, though not an academic, was articulating an existentialist concept of 'the self'. Marcus may not have heard of Satre but that makes his 'awareness' (undeveloped as it may be) all the more impressive. If Marcus had had all the advantages in life as Satre and other 'academics' who knows?

Satre - 'hell is other people'...a rather fitting quote re BB house!

fairly good command over the english language? ("and fings like vat" and "blah, blah, blah"). Pity he keeps switching his brain off, perhaps it's too much effort.

Of course he does; his legendary diary room rants are proof. That's what makes his 18 words so pitiful.

According to that - Lisa and Sophie have 'mild' mental retardation!

I don't buy that - not with either - but particularly not with Lisa!

Sophie did think that cans of Tuna that did not have "dolphin Friendly" printed on it had Dolphin meat in it!!

You're joking right?

No.

My opinion on it is that he's very intelligent in the sense that he's a good judge of character and that he's always very aware of people and what they're thinking.

He's emotionally retarded, though.


ALSO, there is no need to quote EVERYTHING so stop, it's just annoying.

bossy boots!!