[Taijitu]

Can anyone confirm if this contains an exact qoute from Marcus?

Marcus: You can be identical yourself, but not be yourself
Tom: What? That doesn't make any sense Marcus

If so then given the gramma used (not saying "identical to") it would mean expressing or resulting in identity.

The sentence could then be seen as meaning you could express an identity of yourself (one for show you most commonly use in a fake environment), but not be yourself (since the identity you are expressing isnt your true nature but mearly a facet of it used to diguise the whole).

I didnt see the conversation so dont know the context but it would be ironic if people who call Marcus crude (i.e. lacking in intellectual subtlety) do so partially because he is actually too subtle for them to understand.

Just a though.

[InOne]

He is pretty intelligent, he just overshadows it with the way he acts. He is clearly quite switched on.

[IsleOfWeather]

gramma?

[BB22]

He is obviously not educated to a particularly high level but he is definitely much more intelligent than many people on this forum give him credit for. Also, many of his observations during the course of this series, both about events in the House and the way people are perceived on the outside, have been very astute.

[Zien]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BB22]

Originally posted by Zien
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, admittedly, thinking that Charlie is his friend is kind of dumb.

[karezza]

Marcus last night - "Conflict of the human heart is to do what is wrong when you know what's right."

Legendary Big Brother philosopher Marcus the Wise.

[ElProximo]

He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.

[karezza]

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.

He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by karezza

He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.

That isn't what Marcus says. He credits Lisa with keen perception and consistency.
Oh oh.. now what do you do?

At least I can say he gets some obvious things right once in a while.

[Niamh.]

I think he is pretty intelligent 90% of the time but then he says something completely stupid and spoils it!!

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by karezza

He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.

How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!

[karezza]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON

How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!

There IQs were measured by Big Brother.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
gramma?

You are so mean!

I was suggesting Marcus is bright not me!


P.S. you also overlooked I missed the t off of thought at the end.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by karezza

There IQs were measured by Big Brother.

Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.

Yes indeed I think it can often be very easy for some people to have an exaggerated view of their own intelligence.

We are all only human after all not computers.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON

Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?

122, Sophia had the highest and Freddie had 125 2nd highest

[karezza]

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON

Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?

Sophia was top, followed by Freddie, followed by Marcus. Saffia was bottom & Lisa second bottom. Saffia & Lisa are morons.

[Niamh.]

anyone know what Beas IQ was?

[karezza]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
anyone know what Beas IQ was?

They haven't revealed the IQs of the newer housemates.

David's would be very low.

[Zizz6]

Originally posted by InOne
He is pretty intelligent, he just overshadows it with the way he acts. He is clearly quite switched on.

When Marcus was called into the diary room when he had an argument with Sree it became very obvious that he is not stupid, far from it.

Even in this very tense situation he defended himself very logically. With proper education he may have made a good lawyer perhaps.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by karezza

They haven't revealed the IQs of the newer housemates.

David's would be very low.

Yeah, I d say so! Would be curious to know Beas, she reckons she's clever but I'm not so sure she quite as clever as she thinks!!

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by BB22
He is obviously not educated to a particularly high level but he is definitely much more intelligent than many people on this forum give him credit for. Also, many of his observations during the course of this series, both about events in the House and the way people are perceived on the outside, have been very astute.

Shame he doesn't put that 'intelligence' to better use then!

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Zizz6

When Marcus was called into the diary room when he had an argument with Sree it became very obvious that he is not stupid, far from it.

Even in this very tense situation he defended himself very logically. With proper education he may have made a good lawyer perhaps.

yeah, he's like "naturally clever" where as Beas cleverness was bought and paid for by mummy & daddy and it shows!!

[bansheewails]

At least Marcus tries to behave in an intelligent and logical way. Some of the rest of them seem to take pride in being stupid and not knowing anything. I hope my children never play the 'dumb' card for any reason.