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Stu 05-05-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3211010)
I am not disputing that. All i'm saying is that i don't think it's right to kill a baby when in the majority of cases if you hadn't wanted one you could have avoided it in the first place.

I don't think it's right to kill a baby either. I don't support a womans choice to kill a baby. I support a womans choice to kill a young foetus. If you think they compare in any way, shape or form then so be it, but that is where we differ.

Enid 05-05-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucy. (Post 3211010)
I am not disputing that. All i'm saying is that i don't think it's right to kill a baby when in the majority of cases if you hadn't wanted one you could have avoided it in the first place.

I agree with you. Many women even use it as the new contraceptive.

The option should always be there, however. If a woman wants to have an abortion, if she feels like a child would be a burden, she should be allowed that choice.

Lucy. 05-05-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3211015)
I don't think it's right to kill a baby either. I don't support a womans choice to kill a baby. I support a womans choice to kill a young foetus. If you think they compare in any way, shape or form then so be it, but that is where we differ.

I don't.

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 3211008)
Very later on in the pregnancy. To say that a little foetus or embryo can feel pain is just moronic.

It is not moronic and unless you can back that up I would not make the call. I am still waiting on your rape stats?

Enid 05-05-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211019)
It is not moronic and unless you can back that up I would not make the call. I am still waiting on your rape stats?

Why do you need rape statistics, LT? It happens, doesn't it? That's all you need to know.

Stu 05-05-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211019)
It is not moronic and unless you can back that up I would not make the call. I am still waiting on your rape stats?

Your Christian. You don't get to harass others for proof.

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 3211023)
Why do you need rape statistics, LT? It happens, doesn't it? That's all you need to know.

It is a red herring. the numbers are so small noone one would seriously use it for legislation. It is just a line that folks like you troop out with little thought

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 03:17 PM

http://womensissues.about.com/od/rep...ionArgumen.htm

Enid 05-05-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3211029)
Your Christian. You don't get to harass others for proof.

Hahah nice one.

M X 05-05-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess (Post 3210889)
That story about the poor in Italy,my god! The abortion limit in the UK is ridiculous,there have been babies who've been born and survived at 24 weeks.

this!!!

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3211029)
Your Christian. You don't get to harass others for proof.

its not so much proof as we all know that it can happen but it is the tiny numbers that fully undermine it as an argument for abortion.

Stu 05-05-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211109)
its not so much proof as we all know that it can happen but it is the tiny numbers that fully undermine it as an argument for abortion.

I know what your getting at, yeah. But it's hardly the only argument for abortion. I do think a good reason is needed.

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3211134)
I know what your getting at, yeah. But it's hardly the only argument for abortion. I do think a good reason is needed.

just knocking down this one


i hope you will be voting tomorrow?

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 04:16 PM

When a pregnant woman, one who intends to have the baby born, looses that baby the reaction is always as if that baby is alive and a real human (same if she is murdered or dies). noone ever says "oh well at least it was not a human" and so forth...

Enid 05-05-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211226)
When a pregnant woman, one who intends to have the baby born, looses that baby the reaction is always as if that baby is alive and a real human (same if she is murdered or dies). noone ever says "oh well at least it was not a human" and so forth...

I assume because it was a wanted pregnancy. Nobody is going to say "at least it was not a human" because that would be an arsey thing to do.

Different attitude altogether.

Shasown 05-05-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211156)
just knocking down this one


i hope you will be voting tomorrow?

Voting for what LT?


Finger on the pulse as always.

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3211241)
Voting for what LT?


Finger on the pulse as always.

For the Scottish girl on Over the Rainbow. she is a fox.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooowllll lllllllll

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Enid (Post 3211234)
I assume because it was a wanted pregnancy. Nobody is going to say "at least it was not a human" because that would be an arsey thing to do.

Different attitude altogether.

:conf:

Stu 05-05-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3211156)
just knocking down this one


i hope you will be voting tomorrow?

Voting on what? Polling stations across Ireland will be closed tommorow.

Shasown 05-05-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3211266)
Voting on what? Polling stations across Ireland will be closed tommorow.

In Lt's mind the whole world are voting tomorrow.

Reality and him dont often meet.

WOMBAI 05-05-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 3210894)
abortion is wrong and one day will be illegal and seen as a disgusting stain on human existance

More like a case of wishful thinking! It will not become illegal in this country -because women do have a say what happens to their own body's in the developed world in the 21st Century! Once again LT you sit up there on your high horse thinking you and other like-minded people have the right to impose their views on others! Fortunately - you don't!

The situation in Oaklahoma is just emotional blackmail - a desperate, low act!

Stu 06-05-2010 06:57 AM

... wow, the self imposed ban didn't last long, did it?

WOMBAI 06-05-2010 07:00 AM

Anything - to disappoint you! Comments such as 'now Wombai has gone' just a red rag to a bull!

Stu 06-05-2010 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3212552)
Anything - to disappoint you! Comments such as 'now Wombai has gone' just a red rag to a bull!

And comments such as 'he will be back, he needs TIBB more than it needs him!' are fondly remembered by yours truley, especially in light of the fact that I never left, and you did. It's hillarious. Super hillarious.

WOMBAI 06-05-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3212558)
And comments such as 'he will be back, he needs TIBB more than it needs him!' are fondly remembered by yours truley, especially in light of the fact that I never left, and you did. It's hillarious. Super hillarious.

Touched a nerve did I! Remember away!


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