[Crimson Dynamo]

Pregnant women in the US state of Oklahoma will be given an ultrasound and receive detailed information about their unborn baby before going through with an abortion, under new laws.

Pro-lifers say the new measures, passed by the state’s legislature, are an attempt to save the lives of unborn children and prevent psychological trauma to pregnant women.

Women will hear about the dimensions of the baby, whether arms, legs and internal organs are visible and whether there is cardiac activity.

A key supporter of the change in the law, Tony Lauinger, vice president of the National Right to Life Committee, said: “The intent of the law is to provide a woman with full and complete information in advance of an irrevocable act that will take the life of an unborn child”.

Mr Lauinger added: “It is hoped that with the benefit of that information some women will opt to allow their baby to continue to live.”
Ultrasound

Mary Spaulding Balch, a director at National Right to Life, said: “Ultrasound gives a mother a window to her womb. It helps to prevent her from making a decision she may regret for the rest of her life and it empowers her with the most accurate information about her pregnancy so that she can make a truly informed ‘choice’.”

A second new law attempts to protect doctors by stopping “wrongful life” lawsuits, which have become increasingly common.

In such cases, women sue their doctors if their child is born with an abnormality claiming they would have had an abortion if they had known about it.

Earlier this week it was revealed that a baby boy in Italy had survived for two days after a botched abortion at 22 weeks.

Press reports today claim the mother chose to abort the baby after a prenatal scan showed he had a cleft lip and palate.

He was wrapped in a sheet and left to die by staff at the Rossano Calabro hospital in Italy, but the day after the abortion the baby boy, who still had his umbilical cord attached, was discovered moving and breathing by a Roman Catholic priest.

The baby was rushed to another nearby hospital, where he died the following day.

In Britain the remarkable youngster’s fight for life has fuelled calls for a reduction in the upper time limit for abortions, which are currently allowed up to 24 weeks.

A spokesman for the ProLife Alliance said: “There cannot be anybody in the world who is not horrified by a story like this nor anybody in the UK who would not support a massive reduction in the upper limit for abortion.”

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/okl...fore-abortion/

[Ninastar]

I think this is kinda a good thing. It will make people think twice before an abortion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I think this is kinda a good thing. It will make people think twice before an abortion.

yes

[Tom4784]

I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's.

Heaven forbid when you have children

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Heaven forbid when you have children

Heaven forbid you actually try to debate something for once.

[Jessica.]

It should be like that everywhere!

[teamandre]

i dont agree in abortions only in speical situatons but if you can lay down and spreed yer legs then pay price

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Heaven forbid you actually try to debate something for once.

"I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's. "


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[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's.

Damn right they should be guilty!
Unless they were raped then they should have to deal with the consequences of not saying 'No'.

[Beastie]

The abortion limit must be lowered. Also if you want an abortion you should PAY for it and not have it through the NHS. It will make people think twice before having unprotected sex. Abortion should still be legal. There are lots of young people having babies who working people are paying for and they get a council house given to them by the government. This is not fair, I think the baby should be taken away from them rather than working people paying for them to have their own house and imenities, etc..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

Damn right they should be guilty!
Unless they were raped then they should have to deal with the consequences of not saying 'No'.

by allowing them to avoid the consequences we just keep on killing babies rather than make people responsible

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

by allowing them to avoid the consequences we just keep on killing babies rather than make people responsible

Are you arguing with me here or agreeing? Because i don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape so your arguing for no point if that's the case.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's. "


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rest

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What's wrong with that? People have the right to choose do they not?

[Princess]

That story about the poor in Italy,my god! The abortion limit in the UK is ridiculous,there have been babies who've been born and survived at 24 weeks.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What's wrong with that? People have the right to choose do they not?

the right to chose to kill a baby?

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People have the right to choose do they not?

I never realised Murder was a choice.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

Are you arguing with me here or agreeing? Because i don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape so your arguing for no point if that's the case.

abortion is wrong and one day will be illegal and seen as a disgusting stain on human existance

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

abortion is wrong and one day will be illegal and seen as a disgusting stain on human existance

Abortion is wrong, I agree o_0
I just don't think it's AS bad if the woman has been raped, I still don't think they should do it but I can understand their reasons.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

I never realised Murder was a choice.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the right to chose to kill a baby?

Oh please, most abortions take place very early in the pregnancy when the foetus is just an egg.

Also it's very easy to judge when you're not in the situation yourself. Lucy especially, if you were to become pregnant you would consider abortion although you'd probably swear blind you wouldn't. The point is you don't know how you'd act and feel in that situation unless you've experienced so don't judge the people who do have abortions when you don't know what's going through their heads.

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Lucy especially, if you were to become pregnant you would consider abortion although you'd probably swear blind you wouldn't.

The difference is most sensible people know how to keep it in their pants or atleast use protection so they don't have that problem in the first place. If you can't do the time don't do the crime!

[Enid]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

abortion is wrong and one day will be illegal and seen as a disgusting stain on human existance

Illegalising abortion? Are you sh!tting me? That will cause more harm than good. There are enough unwanted children as it is, not to mention over-population.

Why ruin a young woman's life just because she was stupid and naive one time? We all make mistakes. She also does not want to be stuck with a rape baby.

Pro-choice all the way, baby.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Lucy.

The difference is most sensible people know how to keep it in their pants or atleast use protection so they don't have that problem in the first place. If you can't do the time don't do the crime!

Yes, well a lot of people aren't sensible, and therefore unfit to have children anyway.

[Lucy.]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yes, well a lot of people aren't sensible, and therefore unfit to have children anyway.

Well they shouldn't be allowed the easy way out by a quick trip to a clinic to absolve them of all reponsibility. 'Naive' bull****. Their just too lazy to give a stuff.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Oh please, most abortions take place very early in the pregnancy when the foetus is just an egg.

Also it's very easy to judge when you're not in the situation yourself. Lucy especially, if you were to become pregnant you would consider abortion although you'd probably swear blind you wouldn't. The point is you don't know how you'd act and feel in that situation unless you've experienced so don't judge the people who do have abortions when you don't know what's going through their heads.

It stops being an egg at the moment of conception.