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Livia 17-07-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3511071)
But teens don't realize that. They have their ipods and playstations. Isn't world just peace loving place? Only UK soldiers are making it worse....

We've turned into the kind of country where people, especially teens, like you say, spout the most unadulterated rubbish about the military. Their ignorance of the subject doesn't stand in the way of them making a snap judgement. Shame... We've turned into the kind of place that laughs at someone for being injured in a terrorist action, and build shrines to people like Raoul Moat.

MojoNixon 17-07-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3511083)
This is my view.

Also, going back to MojoNixon and his use of the term 'Irish pr1cks', I think this is why many of us have our doubts about Steve. He seems like the person who off camera would say things like that.

A bit of a MojoNixon, if you will.

I said earlier that i don't have anything against Ireland. And sorry about that term. But why are you referring me to Steve? Just think by yourself.

But again, i'm not gonna fight with you because you are OK. But vesavius is a another story, he IS terrorist sympathizer.

ElProximo 17-07-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 3510935)
Mate he didnt jump on the bomb to save a civillian or another soldier. The irish detonated it as he was walking past.

So he did not intentionally save anyones life hence not making him a hero. It was a fluke.

Wrong.
He volunteered to take that explosion. He did that when he signed up to serve. You need to understand that.
If he didn't do that on purpose then you or I would eventually be in line for it. Probably me. I'm not as brave as Steve but I have a feeling your less likely to be counted on if it comes to it.
The good news is that Steve volunteered to take that explosion first and so it will never make it to your front door or mine.

Steve is a dull HM?
One of the reasons you even get to watch entertaining HMs in a program called BB is BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE STEVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The sad.. I mean just pathetic, sad and even downright disgusting things is when people don't even understand that.
That is a ****ing tragedy that far too many spoiled young people don't understand why their iPhone and BB voting parties and entertaining programs are OWED to the Steves of this world.

Anyways.. I also find him an intriguing HM so its all good for me.

Stu 17-07-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3511101)
I said earlier that i don't have anything against Ireland. And sorry about that term. But why are you referring me to Steve? Just think by yourself.

But again, i'm not gonna fight with you because you are OK. But vesavius is a another story, he IS terrorist sympathizer.

Fair dues.

And yes, I am well clued up on Che Guevara.

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 3510976)
Smart to be a coward... LOL Yeah, cowardice is such an attractive and admirable quality.

Luckily there are some people who are willing to go to war so that people like you can sit at home, scratch your balls and watch it on the news.

Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom! :hugesmile:

MojoNixon 17-07-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3511119)
Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom! :hugesmile:

Would love to see if he was so brave if he did live in Iran ;)

Stu 17-07-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3511119)
Stu is a keyboard warrier! He prefers to fight his battles verbally, in the safety of his bedroom! :hugesmile:

I asked Livia for her location so we could duke it out in a boxing ring, but alas no response.

Run along now.

It's the internet, WOMBAI. And it's not as if I haven't had discussions about the military with people face to face before. So what do you suggest I do?

And what does that make you? Coming in for another attack? Also a keyboard warrior?

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3511144)
I asked Livia for her location so we could duke it out in a boxing ring, but alas no response.

Run along now.

It's the internet, WOMBAI. And it's not as if I haven't had discussions about the military with people face to face before.

Can I score! :hugesmile:

MrGaryy 17-07-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3510885)
Well then why not just talk about those characteristics instead of going on about whether or not he's a hero?

Because the point of this thread was to dispel this nonsense others drone on about - even Davina and some of the housemates - to justify how bigotted he is and how nasty he was to Keeley 'because he's a hero'.

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3510880)
Yes it does. He took the blast that.. if not for his sacrifice.. would have been taken by another.
If not taken by another soldier it would have been used on innocent civilians.
He is a hero.
You are not.
He is a giant and you ought to wish you could have 1/2 the brass balls Steve had in not just taking a blast so others did not but also for the huge character in that guy for coming out a cheerful positive person who doesn't have to belittle others to feel bigger about himself.

As far as I remember, he didn't exactly jump in front of the bomb he was just unlucky in that he happened to be walking along at the wrong time. He didn't 'take the blast' it was forced upon him.

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3510938)
He never was your hero right from the start. But if there were not guys like Steve, you would speak russia or germany right now. And i don't say it because it was WWII, but cowards like you make me puke. Now crawl back behind your keyboards pansy.

If you haven't noticed, this is an internet forum, everyone stands behind their keyboards, yourself included. You call me a pansy but are you in the army? I some how doubt that.

Braden 17-07-2010 12:39 PM

ROFL @ Wombai in this conversation!

Stu 17-07-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3511150)
Can I score! :hugesmile:

... wha?

A goal? A nice big bag of opium? A man?

MrGaryy 17-07-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3511141)
Would love to see if he was so brave if he did live in Iran ;)

Oh PLEASE tell me you are not comparing Northern Ireland to Iran?!

MojoNixon 17-07-2010 12:39 PM

MrGaryy. Age, location and political orientation please.

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 3511155)
ROFL @ Wombai in this conversation!

Elaborate please! :hugesmile:

Zippy 17-07-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3511158)
... wha?

I think she wants to be the referee!

MrGaryy 17-07-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3511162)
MrGaryy. Age, location and political orientation please.

erm, would you like my bank details while I'm at it?

Stu 17-07-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3511167)
I think she wants to be the referee!

I wasn't aware I was in a match :tongue:.

Oh well, read the title. Twas' always going to be a nasty one.

MojoNixon 17-07-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3511160)
Oh PLEASE tell me you are not comparing Northern Ireland to Iran?!

Well why not. If you gonna be blasted in iran or ireland, what is the difference after all? They both hate UK soldiers. Are you saying that Steve did have a church pin-nic over there in Ireland back then?

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3511144)
I asked Livia for her location so we could duke it out in a boxing ring, but alas no response.

Run along now.

It's the internet, WOMBAI. And it's not as if I haven't had discussions about the military with people face to face before. So what do you suggest I do?

And what does that make you? Coming in for another attack? Also a keyboard warrior?

Yes, I know I am - but I am not condeming the soldiers for what they do am I - I support them! I admire their bravery!

MrGaryy 17-07-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3511177)
Well why not. If you gonna be blasted in iran or ireland, what is the difference after all? They both hate UK soldiers. Are you saying that Steve did have a church pin-nic over there in Ireland back then?

Don't be so facetious, of course I'm not saying that. But the Northern Ireland troubles looks like a day out in Alton Towers compared to the situation in Iran, lets be honest.

MojoNixon 17-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3511171)
erm, would you like my bank details while I'm at it?

No. But age and political orientation please. And are you teen?. And just please tell me are you immigrant or are you living in Ireland or not. Just simple little question. I ain't no hacker or "spy" or anything, so don't worry. I ain't gonna hack on your computer. Just wanna know if you hate Steve just because he reminds you of your dad or is it political issue.

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 3511174)
I wasn't aware I was in a match :tongue:.

Oh well, read the title. Twas' always going to be a nasty one.

You said you were gonna have a boxing match, jokingly, and I jokingly responded - that I would like to referee! What's not to get! :conf: Fool!

Stu 17-07-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3511182)
Yes, I know I am - but I am not condeming the soldiers for what they do am I - I support them! I admire their bravery!

Neither are my.

Oops. Looks like you jumped in the deep end of the wrong pool. Again.

Fool.

WOMBAI 17-07-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3511160)
Oh PLEASE tell me you are not comparing Northern Ireland to Iran?!

Northern Ireland was a very dangerous place to be for soldiers back then - so there really isn't that much difference!

Stu 17-07-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3511186)
You said you were gonna have a boxing match, jokingly, and I jokingly responded - that I would like to referee! What's not to get! :conf:

Have to say, that flew way over my head. I didn't know that was boxing terminology for a ref.

I thought the judges scored, myself.


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