Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4121577)

What a load of hypocritical bollocks about freedom of speech, when the usual saddo ignorant suspects jump on anyone who has the audacity to express a view that hasn't been lifted straight out of the Guardian. They lean so far over that they deserve to be shafted by those in our midst who exploit every so called "human right" for their own ends and sod anyone who gets in their way.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4121445)

I'll address your final point before I go any further. I did not brand you anything, far less brand you ignorant. Context is the crucial point. I said quite specifically,

Not you, your viewpoint - and that viewpoint as being ignorant to the issues it surrounds.

Again, I am aghast that you feel freedom is speech means people can effectively say whatever they like, being taught whatever people wish them to be taught - and not expect such overt freedom of speech to have severe ramifications. One example: Klu Klux Klan. They said whatever they liked, they instilled their hatred to such proportions that it affected their behavior (burning people alive at the stake because they had a different colour of skin as a common occupation of the KKK, gang raping tender young males & females etc). That is why there respect has to be taught, respect and tolerance for all races, creed, religions -because without those 2 very important aspects (respect and tolerance) - the world may as well rip each other apart and all law enforcement agencies may as well hang up their boots and badges right now.

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 4121605)

Seems to me the Liberati are happy for the world and his wife to have freedom of speech, no matter how inflammatory or offensive, but YOU and I? Not a hope:bored: They wouldn't recognise commonsense and justice if it smacked them in the face - I don't know whether to be sorry for them or just ridicule them as an endless source of amusement.