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How would the authorities know the source of your cannabis ? Your last point makes no sense to me... If I make a point against cannabis, how on earth does that affect anything in relation to alcohol consumption and the associated health and social implications of it?... I am not advocating people drink alcohol, all I am suggesting is people don't use cannabis. That is not a double standard. |
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In these two states growing your own cannabis is still illegal, you have to purchase it and chances are the sellers will have to adhere to guidelines and regulations involving the growing and cultivation as well as probably having a license or a permit to actually sell the product. In places where it's legal they aren't just letting anyone sell it. You've defended alcohol by saying it's only dangerous when you abuse it but you aren't willing to extend the same train of thought to Cannabis although it's medically proven to be less harmful then Alcohol and you've tried to dream up various scenarios where it would be dangerous to partake in it when in fact if you replaced it with Alcohol it would make the situation more treacherous. |
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'The chances are' means you have no idea and are probably simply speculating. How is it less harmful than alcohol? I haven't dreamt anything... What situation are you referring to...replace how much alcohol with how much cannabis, over what timeframe? Dezzy, the bottom line is I don't agree with the legalisation... What I, you or anyone think of cigarettes and alcohol won't change that. |
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Are you seriously that ignorant that you don't know how it's less harmful then alcohol? Alcohol raises the risk of heart problems, Mouth and Throat Cancer, Cirrhosis, high blood pressure and women who drink a lot run the risk of doubling their chances of getting Breast Cancer. The only health risk you've offered up for Cannabis is that bad batches of it may cause Paranoia.... Unlike you Kizzy, I know what I'm talking about but I'm not sure of the specifics of the regulations for the two states of America so I made educated assumptions based on what I know of the laws in other places that have legalised it. I don't know how you can justify opposing the legislation when you know next to nothing about the drug in question, it just seems incredibly ignorant. |
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So i'm ignorant... and you know everything because you 'googled' and some stoner on a forum told you....lets leave the 'debate' there shall we? Please don't insult me again, I have nothing else to say to you on this topic. |
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I will however accept your admittance of defeat and will advise you to stay out of SD if you can't handle a debate. If you can't handle the heat then stay the hell out of the kitchen. |
I taught a class on drug awareness to level 2 National Diploma student as part of my Public Services degree.
However you can think whatever you like. |
I struggle to believe that given how little you've shown yourself to know in this thread but whatever you say Kizzy.
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If you had offered anything in the way of proof for your claims I might have posted some stats or evidence to support my opinion.
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Oh Kizzy just stop, you've already admitted defeat and this is just getting sad. I've made several good points that you've chosen to ignore so why should I make an effort when you'll ignore anything I post anyway?
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When you chose to insult a forum member due to the fact they disagreed with your 'facts' you negated your whole argument dezzy. As you said this is serious debates.. I was far from defeated, just shocked at your outburst in this section. |
I don't care about anything you have to say because we're three pages in and you haven't provided a decent argument yet. You can find evidence of my claims all around since I've stated nothing that isn't already widely known.
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You have posted nothing of any merit, I have asked you to reveal the sources of your information and you refuse. If I post some information for you will you please stop insulting me? http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/expertadvic.../cannabis.aspx There you go, once again can I say I do not agree with the legalisation. |
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/11..._marijuana.php
http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/ http://phys.org/news157280425.html http://blog.norml.org/2011/11/01/stu...ot-is-illegal/ http://scienceblogs.com/scientificac...-and-tobacc-1/ http://scienceblogs.com/scientificac...-and-tobacc-1/ ...alcohol is more harmful than Cannabis...that much isn't really debateable..it's just a question of whether people agree with it being legalised..... |
I agree Ammi, you can't really think alcohol is fine on one hand and think cannabis is the devil on the other, it doesn't make any sense.
On a personal level, I don't know anyone who has a cannabis problem but I know plenty of people who's lives have been ruined by drink |
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I agree with ammi, nobody is suggesting alcohol isn't dangerous.. This is a debate into whether cannabis should be legalised, they are two seperate issues. I know people who's lives have been ruined by both. |
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QUOTE: Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’? Recent research in Denmark suggests that yes, there is. It is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year. However, they also found that: Three quarters had a different psychotic disorder diagnosed within the next year. Nearly half still had a psychotic disorder 3 years later. So, it also seems probable that nearly half of those diagnosed as having cannabis psychosis are actually showing the first signs of a more long-lasting psychotic disorder, such as schizophrenia. It may be this group of people who are particularly vulnerable to the effects of cannabis, and so should probably avoid it in the future. |
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..yes thank you Kizzy..that stregthens the point that it's the user and not the substance...certain people with inherent mental issues should certainly refrain from using it...the onus is on them..... ...that saved me looking it up..well done... |
Can't we just spark up some funky buddha and all get along?
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I couldn't post links on lads 3Ds at the time. I bet you know what question is coming next... how would you know you had an underlying mental health problem? All the people happy at the declassification, how do they know they are not about to trigger a mental time bomb? |
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