..I don't think Daley's quite forgiven Hazel for not tearing the diary room doors down and begging BB to let him stay but what he's missing is that it was BB and the public that deemed his actions as disturbing and threatening and the 'blame' he thinks is there doesn't even lie with Hazel at all..I can't believe in anyone's world it can be acceptable to put your hands on someone's throat and talk about 'nutting' them and the fact that he's had time to reflect and still shows no responsibility for his actions is also very disturbing indeed...

Yes, well it was becoming clear even before that night that Daley was an extremely controlling person, the whole make up conversation was weird and uncomfortable to watch also. I dread to think what he's like behind closed doors tbh

What happened to the whimpering little victim we had on BOTS?

the whimpering little victim didn't shed a tear that night!

I can understand what Charlie meant, however, she didn't expain it well at all. Bless her. Hazel was therefore in the right, as much as i love Charlie.

..it makes me think that was how he was told to behave for damage limitations but he's obviously so unpleasant, he can't keep that up even for his public image..?...

I feel sorry for any woman that has a relationship with Daley, he's a psycho that will undoubtedly hit the news eventually for beating up a future girlfriend.

He has issues and he is constantly blaming them on innocent parties instead of tackling them. He is scum.

Daley girlfriend had a lucky escape tbh.

Hopefully hazel isn't one of those people who take online comments so seriously.

She's probably back with him, she did accompany him to that interview on BOTS

All this over a cucumber? and they want to shoot Hazel? Haha. Oh dear what losers.

And Daley. What a idiot.

This is getting out of hand IMO. BB chose their victim but the public attitude to Hazel is absolutely disgusting. I cant take BB seriously anymore.

And Tbh I believed daley's apology but if he was truly sorry he wouldn't be commenting on this and always wanting to defend himself.

Fully expect to see a "reconciliation" between Daley and Hazel after she's evicted. May even get Katie in in the act.

Obviously with magazine reps and photographers present! It is to their mutual financial benefit.

None of this is true I bet my life on it.

Daley's apology was not to Hazel, it was to any women "if" they were offended.

He pretty clearly believes he has done nothing wrong whatsoever.

Brilliant post joeysteele

Ive been on holiday for the last 2 weeks and have missed a lot!!!! I have a lot of catching up to do!

I think people just hold the logic of 'the more shocking and controversial I am, the more followers I get' Its sad.

Im sorry but the title of this thread is just too funny

I dislike Hazel but the twittersphere is mad lol

I wouldnt worry about it, you know Im no Hazel fan but twitter is full of very stupid people who wouldnt be able to write anything if it had to be whole proper sentences

Dont like her but death threats are ridiculous

I know it's old hat but a lot of people forget that they are living in each others pockets for weeks without end. They sleep in the same room, eat in the same room etc. They experience each other at every point in their daily life cycles and ONLY each other (the housemates) UNINTERRUPTED for weeks. Thier entire world becomes just a few people whereas in the real world we can have hundreds if not thousands of different people weaving in and out of our lives.

I believe the majority of what we saw that night was Hazel and Daley testing each other's boundaries and feeling out what was acceptable foreplay. e.g. Hazel pulling down Daley's boxers and Daley asking Hazel if she wanted him to 'go nuts' Hazel said yeah, do it, go for it etc. Also, before he put his hand on her throat she said 'it's ok, I'm not afraid of aggressive men'

I completely agree that the average person would find that extremely intimidating and aggressive. I partly agree that for SOME people if you felt it was in any way acceptable in 'foreplay' you would have to know each other extremely well. I believe this is true for some people but not for others.

I am no saint and have had one night stands in my time, some of them kinkier than others. I think it depends on a lot of factors such as how comfortable both parties are with their sexuality, their bodies and their identities. It depends on how socially skilled both parties are and how well they read body language and understand the opposite sex etc. It also depends say on how horny the girl is and how determined she is to get her preferred type of foreplay, which would have been the case with Hazel IMHO.

I think that all that drink and the immediate situation of potential sex with a hot girl he had been flirting with for ages took over. I believe he was just very horny and completely thinking with 'little Daley'. The same for Hazel.

To me this said it was the calling to the diary room that upset her. My read is that she was snapped back to the fact that this was, in fact, in front of 'the nation'. That she was frightened more so of the consequences to her reputation and career than anything Daley might do to her. That's my read.

Well she is extremely good looking with a lovely figure so that is half the population annoyed before she even opens her mouth.

She never accused Charlie of anything when she was in BB diary room.
All Charlie was thinking about was herself. Never mind that she did genuinely hurt Hazel's eye. Bringing Daley into the convo was disgraceful.

You are right to say that Hazel did anything wrong but that wont change people's minds.

Are you a woman? Do you have experience of someone pinning you down and putting their arm across your throat and then being promised a head butt?
If this behaviour is normal in your world it is not normal in law.
Daley was evicted because BB was broadcasting to an audience and they have to show that there are consequences for such behaviour.
I would have preferred it if both Hazel and Daley had been evicted. This might have educated some but not all women to take more care.

My name is WozMan.
Yes I have been pinned down, had someone's hands on my throat, actually been headbutted as well as being physically threatened.

Each instance stands on its own indivdual merits with PERCIEVED INTENT and SENSE OF CONTROL being huge factors in how I felt about the situation.