Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 7467238)

In all the years of watching BB and CBB tonights show is top of the pile when it comes to an abslolutely SICKENING episode. Never have I been so disappointed in a housemate as I am with KEN the man I thought was legend in Coronation St all those years ago even though I was young when he appeared on it. I had high hopes for him and cheered when he entered the house. Now he has shown himself to be a vile, pervy old man who thinks its ok to say anything he wants to women with regard to sex etc. Telling Chloe that Jeremy was a big producer was like telling her she should have let him do what he wanted. he was commenting about the position of the pictures of the girls on the wall and saying something about 'giving head' he was on about the bathroom and watching the women and he made some comment to Cami about slut or *****. Ken SHOULD have been ejected tonight even BEFORE Jeremy. I think the reason Jeremy was ejected wasn't ENTIRELY because he groped Chloe it was because most of the OTHER housemates didn't feel comfortable with him. And I am NOT talking about Perez who went down in my estimation for trying making the whole thing about himself.

The thing that saddens me the most on reading the forum reactions to the Jeremy and Chloe situation is the amount of Chloe haters that are saying it was her own fault for going in there half naked (when some of the other girls were CLEARLY in there also) saying how she is MILKING the situation and blowing it out of proportion. In the Hazel and Daley situation much and all as I liked Hazel SHE DID FLIRT with Daley and they had been play acting before it. Chloe and the other girls felt sorry for Jeremy and went to help him. That in itself is a brave thing to do because there is nothing worse than watching someone PUKING their guts up.

When the incident happened Chloe was clearly heard saying Jeremy that is NOT ok. She then left the room in tears which I or many other women would have done. Even allowing for the fact that Jeremy was totally and utterly drunk the girl was HELPING him and not FLASHING at him. If it was KATIE who I completely dislike and think is an absolute bitch I would agree that he was wrong and she was right to be upset. Even if I don't like housemates if something like this happened to them I would see the situation WITH A HEART NOT an excuse to further put down my least favourite housemate.

Ken should be out of there straight away and if he isn't ejected SURELY there aren't people who will pick up their phones and vote to save him. Sorry my thread is so long but I am really passionate about the points I have made xx

Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 7467238)

In all the years of watching BB and CBB tonights show is top of the pile when it comes to an abslolutely SICKENING episode. Never have I been so disappointed in a housemate as I am with KEN the man I thought was legend in Coronation St all those years ago even though I was young when he appeared on it. I had high hopes for him and cheered when he entered the house. Now he has shown himself to be a vile, pervy old man who thinks its ok to say anything he wants to women with regard to sex etc. Telling Chloe that Jeremy was a big producer was like telling her she should have let him do what he wanted. he was commenting about the position of the pictures of the girls on the wall and saying something about 'giving head' he was on about the bathroom and watching the women and he made some comment to Cami about slut or *****. Ken SHOULD have been ejected tonight even BEFORE Jeremy. I think the reason Jeremy was ejected wasn't ENTIRELY because he groped Chloe it was because most of the OTHER housemates didn't feel comfortable with him. And I am NOT talking about Perez who went down in my estimation for trying making the whole thing about himself.

The thing that saddens me the most on reading the forum reactions to the Jeremy and Chloe situation is the amount of Chloe haters that are saying it was her own fault for going in there half naked (when some of the other girls were CLEARLY in there also) saying how she is MILKING the situation and blowing it out of proportion. In the Hazel and Daley situation much and all as I liked Hazel SHE DID FLIRT with Daley and they had been play acting before it. Chloe and the other girls felt sorry for Jeremy and went to help him. That in itself is a brave thing to do because there is nothing worse than watching someone PUKING their guts up.

When the incident happened Chloe was clearly heard saying Jeremy that is NOT ok. She then left the room in tears which I or many other women would have done. Even allowing for the fact that Jeremy was totally and utterly drunk the girl was HELPING him and not FLASHING at him. If it was KATIE who I completely dislike and think is an absolute bitch I would agree that he was wrong and she was right to be upset. Even if I don't like housemates if something like this happened to them I would see the situation WITH A HEART NOT an excuse to further put down my least favourite housemate.

Ken should be out of there straight away and if he isn't ejected SURELY there aren't people who will pick up their phones and vote to save him. Sorry my thread is so long but I am really passionate about the points I have made xx

Originally Posted by delta (Post 7468189)

Ken Morley is an intelligent man and knows what is and isn't acceptable. He's just looking for the quickest way to remove himself and is sailing as close to the wind as possible. He's clearly bored with the shower of sh!t that surrounds him.


Best possible thing to do is to keep him as he wants to leave so much, he'll wind 'em up even more and he doesn't get to have his own way.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7467674)

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7467674)

I don't blame Chloe for what happened at all. I do feel she overreacted though however thats probably because I have been in similar situations before and have just told the guy to **** off basically and thats that. I accept that everyones different though but I did think it was quite OTT.

I feel a lot of those vilifying Jeremy for being pissed and stupid are being silly though. He didn't grope the girl, he didn't even touch her. Yes it was inappropriate but to make out it was anything more than basically a drunken pass is making this whole thing more sinister than it needs to be really...

Also I feel the Daley/Hazel thing was a completely different ballgame an a hell of a lot more serious. And I dont think Hazel flirting or 'play acting' makes a difference to how we should view that situation to be honest :S

Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7468235)

I have also been in similar situations and also told the guy to **** off, or smacked him one. However, the only thing that makes me think Chloe didn't overreact was because it's in the BB house. Any time that has happened to me, I had people there (like friends etc.). It must be difficult when something happens to you in the BB House and you feel upset and you're basically in there with a bunch of strangers. I think that is why she walked out of the bathroom and tried to walk out of the room. I think she didn't really know what to do or if she should tell anyone. I don't know if she was drinking or not, but her reaction did seem genuine. I'm not a Chloe fan. I don't even know who she is, but that is how I viewed the situation.

I do agree that the aftermath was OTT, but I think that was mainly due to others (notably Perez) making it all about them. It's a shame really. If I were Chloe I would probably go home.

Originally Posted by delta (Post 7468189)

It's quite clear from the transcript you heard that Chloe was doing nothing but a caring, considerate person and attending to a fellow human being that was in need some care and attention in a potentially, vulnerable situation. He abused that situation in the most heinous way possible, it wasn't a mistake, it wasn't a misinterpreted pass. It was one step down from rape, if he'd have been in the US he'd have been serving time now.

As for Ken, Ken Morley is an intelligent man and knows what is and isn't acceptable. He's just looking for the quickest way to remove himself and is sailing as close to the wind as possible. He's clearly bored with the shower of sh!t that surrounds him.


Best possible thing to do is to keep him as he wants to leave so much, he'll wind 'em up even more and he doesn't get to have his own way.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 7468277)

One step down from rape? Please. And that is the problem with all the over reacting on this forum.

Originally Posted by delta (Post 7468189)

It's quite clear from the transcript you heard that Chloe was doing nothing but a caring, considerate person and attending to a fellow human being that was in need some care and attention in a potentially, vulnerable situation. He abused that situation in the most heinous way possible, it wasn't a mistake, it wasn't a misinterpreted pass. It was one step down from rape, if he'd have been in the US he'd have been serving time now.

As for Ken, Ken Morley is an intelligent man and knows what is and isn't acceptable. He's just looking for the quickest way to remove himself and is sailing as close to the wind as possible. He's clearly bored with the shower of sh!t that surrounds him.


Best possible thing to do is to keep him as he wants to leave so much, he'll wind 'em up even more and he doesn't get to have his own way.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 7468277)

One step down from rape? Please. And that is the problem with all the over reacting on this forum.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7468289)

Oh please !! :shocked: cut the dramatics

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 7468296)

I can't believe I am actually agreeing with chuff. Hell must be crusting up a nice frost.

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 7468292)

The reason the word rape is getting thrown around so much is because situations like this perpetuate rape culture, as do some people blaming the victim.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 7468303)

There isn't really a victim. Basically the guy looked down her robe. She was doing tit tricks earlier ffs. He touched her robe, he didn't grab her. I think the way some people are trying to make it into a rape case is crazy.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 7468277)

One step down from rape? Please. And that is the problem with all the over reacting on this forum.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7468314)

She was bent over him,yes she had a robe on,but you know,I know we all know,when you bend over in a robe,you can see down the front,they are not fitted to the body,they are loose,so maybe a bra would have been appropriate,tell me what guy wouldn't have had a sneaky peek,he shouldn't have touched her robe,but we all do things when we are drunk that we really shouldn't,anyway that aside it seems a mountain has been made out of a molehill:wavey: