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arista 13-05-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7764969)
Many people like the flexibility and if it suits the company..


Yes thats so true


Legit Zero Hours
even used by Kizzys Labour Party

joeysteele 13-05-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7764954)
STOP giving us positive news,no one is interested,people want something to whinge at.:hehe:

Anyone would love to get 'genuine' positive good news but when people are being told all is rosy after only 1 years better figures, following on from over 3 disastrous years, where people have not seen anything positive as to their incomes or working lives.
It is hard to get excited at the snippets we now are getting.

The Bank of England today has downgraded its growth forecast for the UK
This happened in 2010 at the point and after the austerity cuts were implemented and took effect.
We have had an easing of austerity in the run up to the election, now the cuts will be being brought in again severely soon.

Maybe this positive news you are crowing about will turn into another good period of disaster for lives nd incomes again, when those austerity measures maybe again cut off the fragile growth in place at the present time.

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2015 05:39 PM

This great news will be welcomed by all those millions who voted for more cuts to keep the economy moving on the correct path.

joeysteele 13-05-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7764780)
I'd like to see the figure without zero-hours contracts included.

Absolutely right, I will never accept anyone is in full time employment on a zero hours contract, so if they are on one, they should still not be stated as to being in full employment.

AnnieK 13-05-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7765447)
Absolutely right, I will never accept anyone is in full time employment on a zero hours contract, so if they are on one, they should still not be stated as to being in full employment.

Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

Kazanne 13-05-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7765433)
Anyone would love to get 'genuine' positive good news but when people are being told all is rosy after only 1 years better figures, following on from over 3 disastrous years, where people have not seen anything positive as to their incomes or working lives.
It is hard to get excited at the snippets we now are getting.

The Bank of England today has downgraded its growth forecast for the UK
This happened in 2010 at the point and after the austerity cuts were implemented and took effect.
We have had an easing of austerity in the run up to the election, now the cuts will be being brought in again severely soon.

Maybe this positive news you are crowing about will turn into another good period of disaster for lives nd incomes again, when those austerity measures maybe again cut off the fragile growth in place at the present time.

I am not crowing,I was trying to lighten the doom and gloom,by having a lighthearted bit of banter.

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7765483)
I am not crowing,I was trying to lighten the doom and gloom,by having a lighthearted bit of banter.

if you cant celebrate this great news...

joeysteele 13-05-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7765468)
Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

I personally wouldn't ban zero hours contracts, I would prefer they didn't exist but for those that really want them, fine,as long as they 'really' do want them that is.


However a zero hours contract is what it says, great if you get many hours a week but you are not under such a contract guaranteed any.
Also under the contract and come holidays or sickness you will get no pay then either.

Kazanne 13-05-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7765487)
if you cant celebrate this great news...

http://media.giphy.com/media/inplSEbPJLgBi/giphy.gif Me right now:hehe:

bots 13-05-2015 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7765487)
if you cant celebrate this great news...

To quote a very wise lady ... Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice

empire 13-05-2015 06:47 PM

thanks to zero hour contracts that rip off the hard working people of this country, thank you labour-tory policy, for that one

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7765537)

me


http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/a...0_1039046a.jpg

Kazanne 13-05-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7765809)

:joker::joker::joker:what happened there LT?

Denver 13-05-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7765468)
Being in recruitment I speak to many job seekers on a daily basis and whilst I agree there area lot of negatives with zero hour contracts, I regularly speak to people who are getting 40+ hours on zero hour contracts on good rates of oay and have turned down interview for permanent contracts because of the flexibility they get plus the hours they are offered.

It's not an ideal situation but for some they are happy with them....

I'm on a zero hour contract and I can go from 50 hours one week to 10 the next

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7765824)
:joker::joker::joker:what happened there LT?


wanking accident

:ninja2:

Jamesy 13-05-2015 07:08 PM

Zero hour contracts highly depend on your employer. I know some people who are on zero hour contracts and their hours are pretty stable and provide them with a stable income. Other people I know have one week full time then the next week one afternoon of work, with hours all over the place and no stable income to keep them living.

On the whole I'm against zero hour contracts. They're okay when you're young and live with your parents, you have someone to fall back on. Although for adults with their own home and bills and more it's not suitable at all.

MB. 13-05-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7764670)
No Marsh is hard UKIP and Nedusa, Kirk and MB

I wish you'd stop outing me this way.

MB. 13-05-2015 07:11 PM

(two of my milestone posts in a row have been about UKIP. What have I become)

the truth 13-05-2015 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7764510)
People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

creating 2 million plus jobs IS real compassion, destroying the economy like new labour is cruelty

the truth 13-05-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by empire (Post 7765767)
thanks to zero hour contracts that rip off the hard working people of this country, thank you labour-tory policy, for that one

only 2% of jobs are zero hours so don't worry too much....besides in real politiks these workers if theyre doing a fine job will soon either be offered more work better pay and a contract or will be able to go to a bigger and better job

Kizzy 13-05-2015 08:02 PM

http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/14248626...cts_NUMBER.svg

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...-staff-figures

JoshBB 13-05-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 7764510)
People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

Kizzy 13-05-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 7765064)
Yes thats so true


Legit Zero Hours
even used by Kizzys Labour Party

Stop using my name in your posts.

the truth 13-05-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7766037)
Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

when unemployment falls.....productivity rises, crime falls, tax revenues increase so more money to pay for public services, the government is then able to lower taxes on the lowest earners and take them out of tax totally.....there are also working tax credits available to lower earners....whilst in work people rise in pay over time, learn all the time, add more experience and skills all the time, including knowledge, social skills , confidence etc make social contacts speak to potential employers and find further opportunities.....its a win win win win.......work always defeat all opponents....this is why the tories won- JOBS

joeysteele 13-05-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7765970)
only 2% of jobs are zero hours so don't worry too much....besides in real politiks these workers if theyre doing a fine job will soon either be offered more work better pay and a contract or will be able to go to a bigger and better job

With respect that all sounds good but will rarely come about.
No one should have to be on one if they don't want to be and are seeking 'real' full time work.
Far too many of a growing number of employers are probably now,in my view,exploiting these contracts and using them at times when they don't even need to.

I think with these in place,very few are likely to get a better contract and more regular hours weekly unless the employer is actually made to do so.Greedy employers are part of the problem,not the solution


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