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Crimson Dynamo · 13-05-2015, 01:28 PM

Unemployment in the UK has continued to fall and the number of people in work has continued to rise, according to the latest official figures.

The number of people out of work in the January to March period fell to 1.83 million, down 35,000 from the previous quarter and the lowest for seven years.

At the same time, the total number in work rose to 31.1 million.
Average pay for employees, excluding bonuses, rose by 2.2% in the quarter compared with a year earlier.

Including the effect of bonus payments, average pay rose by 1.9% over the same period.

The figures mean that regular pay is now growing at its fastest rate for nearly four years.

It is also the seventh month in a row that the rate of regular pay increases has outstripped the prevailing annual rate of inflation, as measured by the consumer prices index.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32719779

Great news

and the news that food prices are at a 9 year low

Livia · 13-05-2015, 01:30 PM

Waits for the inevitable claims that this is false and the resurrection of the 'food banks' argument.

Denver · 13-05-2015, 01:30 PM

This is BS as they don't what about people on zero hour contracts or those who have been sanctioned as there not accounted for

joeysteele · 13-05-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94

This is BS as they don't what about people on zero hour contracts or those who have been sanctioned as there not accounted for

I have said for ages, the people that are on 16 hour contracts,(which is really only part time work),and that is actually what all the staff are on at my local Supermarket, except for Supervisors and dept; heads.

Also everyone on a zero hours contract, whether happy to be on one or not, should still be classed as not being in full time work at all and therefore not 'fully' employed.

So for me both the 'those in employment figures', and the current 'unemployed' figure are misleading.
Anyone not in full time work, in my view is not in full employment, and we should have that breakdown so better judgements can be made as to who is in good full time regular work and who is not.

I have been saying that for years.

Crimson Dynamo · 13-05-2015, 01:46 PM

62 labour MPS employed people on zero hours contracts during 2013

Ed Balls used 4

Jack_ · 13-05-2015, 01:47 PM

Who gives a crap about massaged employment figures when some of those are forced to work for free to retain their benefits, many of those are on zero hours contracts, many of those have very little job security and a lot of those aren't paid anywhere near enough to live on comfortably.

MTVN · 13-05-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Who gives a crap about massaged employment figures when some of those are forced to work for free to retain their benefits, many of those are on zero hours contracts, many of those have very little job security and a lot of those aren't paid anywhere near enough to live on comfortably.

I doubt that those people are considered to be 'employed' though

Josy · 13-05-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

I doubt that those people are considered to be 'employed' though

They are though as are the ones on zero hour contracts, same goes for the people that are sent on many pointless courses that wont ever get them a job. This is how the figures are manipulated.

Also stated on the radio earlier that the figures show unemployment in England is down but it's still rising in Scotland.

arista · 13-05-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Who gives a crap about massaged employment figures when some of those are forced to work for free to retain their benefits, many of those are on zero hours contracts, many of those have very little job security and a lot of those aren't paid anywhere near enough to live on comfortably.

Jack
Its Fecking Like that all over the World.

Many want Legit Zero hour contracts

You seem to be in the past
sadly

Feel The Force

Crimson Dynamo · 13-05-2015, 02:01 PM

Only 5 labour mps voted against the austerity cuts before the election

seems odd

Jack_ · 13-05-2015, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Only 5 labour mps voted against the austerity cuts before the election

seems odd

And the Conservatives backed Labour's spending plans in 2007/8 which they so vehemently criticised during the campaign

seems odd

bots · 13-05-2015, 02:09 PM

Critics will just not accept when things are moving in the right direction with the economy and it doesn't tie in with their own ideals. Its crazy.

Every hour worked whether it be part time, full time or jolly roger time is benefiting the economy, our services and the well being of the people in our country. Stop whining and accept that great strides are being made in the recovery of this country

Jack_ · 13-05-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Critics will just not accept when things are moving in the right direction with the economy and it doesn't tie in with their own ideals. Its crazy.

Every hour worked whether it be part time, full time or jolly roger time is benefiting the economy, our services and the well being of the people in our country. Stop whining and accept that great strides are being made in the recovery of this country

People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

the truth · 13-05-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

creating 2 million plus jobs IS real compassion, destroying the economy like new labour is cruelty

JoshBB · 13-05-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

People's livelihoods > the economy

Guess I must just be a more compassionate person than most to care more about standards of living than deficit reduction.

And before someone mentions it, it is a myth that the latter has a positive impact on the former. If people aren't paid enough to sustain a sufficient standard of life, who gives a flying **** if the economy is improving for those in the middle and at the top?

Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

the truth · 13-05-2015, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Preach. Thank god some people speak sense on here.

when unemployment falls.....productivity rises, crime falls, tax revenues increase so more money to pay for public services, the government is then able to lower taxes on the lowest earners and take them out of tax totally.....there are also working tax credits available to lower earners....whilst in work people rise in pay over time, learn all the time, add more experience and skills all the time, including knowledge, social skills , confidence etc make social contacts speak to potential employers and find further opportunities.....its a win win win win.......work always defeat all opponents....this is why the tories won- JOBS