I can only judge from what I see and know.

What I choose to divulge to you or anyone else, is written in my many posts.

I know full well how Big Brother and other reality shows work. Thankyou for your critisism, I shall take it on board.

My responses are Facts and proving that your own assumptions are just that! (assumptions).

You state that she is a BULLY, I state, that, many of her arguments can look like bullying, at times! Jade admits that herself. That is FACT.

Also, I say that many of these Arguments/discussions & disagreements are just that! Not bullying. These are also FACTS.

Jade has bullied and I won't dispute this, as Jade Goody has admitted it.

Sometimes, she can't tell the difference between the two.

If an interviewer spent 10 minutes discussing this with her, you'd see my point is very factual.

One Jade-Hater's "rubbish", is another person's "true facts!"

Maybe you are just stating your own opinion, because she repulses you?

I am not condoning bullying and certainly NOT racism, which Jade Goody is NOT part of.

I am NOT forcing anyone on here. I am stating facts and proving what I can prove. Many people are blinded by this Jade/Shilpa scandal and I am putting some people straight on what it is all about and Jade Goody's reasons for this.

She needs help, but is also owning up to what she did. BUT, as she is NO expert on being in this terrible position, she is making mistakes along the way, when she is being asked questions in interviews and Jade Goody is saying things, which could still be construed WRONG!!

Like admitting that she has been a bully at times and saying comments that could sound racist. But were'nt actually meant to be that way.

THIS NEEDS A MUCH MORE CLARIFIED DISTINCTION OF THOSE ADMISSIONS OF GUILT, WHICH IS HARD FOR JADE TO EXPLAIN!!

Admin: post deleted. Comments like this are against forum rules. James

Why did Jade behave the way she did?

You are correct!

The topic is about Jade Goody and why she acted like that to Shilpa Shetty.

Shilpa and Jade Goody are completely different people. I am not talking about race, it is nothing to do with that.

Jade Goody got on with Shilpa, to start with. But things went horribly wrong. Jade found her to be an irrotant. Why this was so, only Jade Goody would really know.

There is editing on the show and maybe something got said, which was "bird-whistled" out? This is possible, so we won't be sure.

Jade acted like this, because, that is how Jade deals with situations like this on "reality shows".

Maybe she does play to the audience watching? I cannot answer that and nor can yourself.

I respect you for being a fan of "Shilpa Shetty" and from what I personally witnessed from watching the show. Shilpa Shetty seemed to do, very little wrong.

In real life, Shilpa could be very different? Jade Goody is very up-front with her opinions. This is evident. However, people are saying that, every argument or discussion is (bullying). Also, she is being accused of being a racist.

Shilpa Shetty has said that Jade's comments were not meant as racial attacks on her. She doesn't consider Jade Goody as being a racist person, but, was upset by what took place in the Big Brother house.

I think this is a lesson to all.

Regarding Big Brother:- "If you can't stand the heat? Get out of the Big Brother kitchen"

And you need to re-read the forum rules

Advocation of physical violence against a HM or fellow poster will not be tollerated. Consider yourself on report :nono:

^^^^^ What he said. I've deleted a post above.

Probably because she felt she had to impress the others or that Shilpa was more famous than her, somewhere.

Do you know Jade personally or something? You tell people off for assuming, but you are doing the exact same thing.

A Bollywood film star is a pretty big deal. A bigger deal than being famous for being stupid, that's for sure.

So now you're saying that although you saw no evidence to suggest that Shilpa isn't a nice person, it was probably hidden? Because it suits your theory? We all know the show is edited, but has it occurred to you that there was no deeper and darker side shown, because Shilpa doesn't actually have one?

Depends on what you class as 'bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny'. People laugh at Jade, not with her. She certainly did not come across as friendly, quirky or bubbly. Just my opinion of course.

Well obviously not, because Shilpa wanted to get on with her, and was not able to.

Yes - and looking at the friends that chose Jade in the house - doesn't say much for Jade really.

And your comments are just your opinion of Jade as well. She is successful because she has a canny agent, and for some reason, people seem obsessed with making celebrities out of people who have zilch talent.

I wouldn't class Chantelle the same as Jade. I'm not a fan of Chantelle, but she seems a basically nice person.

How convenient, that everything you don't agree with is invisible to you. What a lovely world that must create for you. Endemol and John Noel Management are tightly linked. Davina, Dermot and Russell all share the same management as Jade - John Noel Management. Jade generates money for BB - that is why she was put back in the house. The majority of viewers were against the idea, but hey, who cares what they want?

Jade's 'career'. Pffft. I'm sick of all these celebrities - Jade is the worst offender - who manage to become celebrities despite having not one atom of talent or intelligence. If her career bombs (which sadly it won't), it will be no loss to the world of celebrity.

So why doesn't she do that?

No - not facts and information. Just opinions, which you are perfectly entitled to. But it's very easy to call your opinions facts, and to dismiss other people's opinions as rubbish.

Who knows? We can all speculate can't we?

Yes, that's kind of the point.

Who exactly are we talking about here?

Were you there? Do you know for a fact that he smelt? Do you not think that it was a cruel thing to say in any event?

And do you know Jade personally or something? You seem to know an awful lot about her.

No doubt losing weight would be good for Rik.

What has Jade Goody done to lose weight? What about the secret liposuction she had?

You mean the video that she conned people with? On which she conveniently forgot to mention that she had had liposuction?

Yet here you are saying that it was just a disagreement? Jade was not 'rather bullyish' - she was completely vile.

I truly hope her children are safe. As for worrying about her children's and mother's safety - clearly she didn't think about that in the house did she? Or maybe she was arrogant enough to assume that the British public would be automatically on her side?

Where did you get your crystal ball?

I don't HATE Jade - hate is too strong a word. However, your theories have got holes all over them. And what facts have you used? They're just opinions.

And the right of Shilpa Shetty not to be called a "f---ing loser" and "a w---er."

Well of course they will!! It would be naive to assume that they would say anything else. Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

And again, I have to ask - do you know Jade personally? Otherwise, you have no basis for your 'facts'.

To be a Bollywood film star is a great job to have and Shilpa Shetty does a great job.

Jade does a great job too, but is very different to Shilpa in every single way.

This is more than likely, why they didn't click?
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Shilpa Shetty is a human being with faults and also will get into a temper herself. That is obvious!!

People have looked at Jade Goody as the devil and Shilpa Shetty as the angel.

Click on this link: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1203

This is an article which places Shilpa in a more darker light.

But I am Not her to champion or diss Shilpa

I am here to prove Jade Goody is better than you think, etc..

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Jade can be bubbly, quirky and funny! You may laugh at her? But, many laugh with her. Danielle and Jo thought she was funny!

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Shilpa didn't mix well with Jade and Jade didn't mix well with Shilpa. You can't force it?

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Jade Goody is going to be friends with anyone who wants to know and be friends with Jade.

Danielle and Jo got on with Jade Goody.

She could relate with them. Nothing wrong with that!!!

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I think we all know the story you linked by now nodisharmony.

yes jade did quite a good job of showing how ugly she is....there differences in profession have nothing to do with them not getting along well with one another...jade got along with everyone else?

who said shilpa doesn't make mistakes, we all make mistakes, jade chose to be the devil with her foul mouth...shilpa was laughing at the guy and how he was making a fool out of himself by dressing up...anyhow that's what I believe...

You judge Chantelle on what exactly??

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You say that the majority of people didn't want Jade there?

Where are your facts?

You are also saying that their is corruption! and you bring the lovely Davina McCall into the equasion too.

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Jade Goody is a reality show girl and she is up for quiz shows, talent shows, singing shows, interviews, mags, newspapers and most of all reality shows.

She is into perfume, a beauty salon & fitness.

Not so bad really!!

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Richard Branson could retire? Julia Roberts could retire? Bill Gates could retire?

I won't go on listing the next 5 million names!!!

Jade Goody does not want to retire, okay!!

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If Jade Goody had bullied (Cleo) she wouldn't be in this position. That is FACT!!!

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The fact that Jade said that, "Rick Waller" smelt was not just her opinion. It is just that, other housemates are more tactful and Jade Goody says it how it is. Also, it stirs things up a bit. Maybe she is playing to the cameras?

Has that crossed your minds?

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Jade Goody did do Liposuction and also, she did fitness stuff too.

Rick Waller has a lot more weight to lose and needs a more sympathetic trainer to help him.

I do wish Rick well and hope he does lose weight!!

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Jade Goody's fitness video has sold well and helped many people.

People loved Jade Goody and went out and bought it.

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Jade Goody is not interested in hind-sight.

What Jade Goody is interested in, is, (right now and the future)

If she thinks that for one second, that her children could be in danger. Jade Goody will sort things and she is doing that right now!

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Endemol cannot lie about anything. They are answerable to the laws of this country.

There has been judgements made from the recorded footage from the show

and Endemol have come out of this, legally squeaky clean.

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OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!

If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.

What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.

Whether they are actually true?

That is another story.

However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.

Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.

Blimey!

I didn't say I judged her. However, my opinion of Chantelle is based on her in the house last year, and in interviews since. She seems a nice enough girl.

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Where are your facts to support that most people did want her there? There was annoyance when she went in - far more people were against it on here, and other forums than were for it.

I'm saying that they allowed racism to get viewing figures, and only stepped in when they realised the extent of the outcry about it. I'm not blaming Davina personally - she is Endemol's puppet.

I've seen Jade on a couple of quiz shows - she didn't know anyof the answers, she doesn't have any discernible talent, can't sing to the best of my knowledge. The interviews, mags, newspapers and reality shows all come under the same banner. But that is all irrelevant to the point we are discussing.

Or her manager is?

And they day that they cause a disgrace and an international incident, I hope that they do!

Well yes, that much is obvious by her desperate PR campaign (although on GMTV she said that her career was not her priority at all - funny that.)

No it isn't fact. You yourself said on another thread that we are all capable of speculation. You should not get facts mixed up with speculation. It didn't happen, so we will never know what position Jade would have been in.

And that's a good thing? It's good to be tactless?

Yes, but she conveniently forgot to mention the lipo.

What's the relevance of that to this thread?

I don't know how well it's sold. How do you know that it has helped many people? I would appreciate an answer based on fact, not speculation.

At the risk of sounding like a stuck record - how do you know what she is interested in?

See above

Can you tell us what she is doing to sort it out while she is on her PR campaign trail in India? And how do you know what she is doing?

Endemol can lie about whatever they want! (Not that I'm condoning that.)

Surprise, surprise.

I'm sorry for the persistence, but you refused to answer the question, and in fact, you have still not answered it. Do you know Jade personally or not?

Without meaning to sound rude - you can't stop people having and stating the opinion that she is racist.

Well, I won't hold my breath waiting for your 'proof'.

A truck load of valid points there Ruth, five star post :thumbs:



You should be concerning yourself with repairing the holes in your theories.

I take that as an admission.

Finally admited that he is working for her! So what other forums did she as her team to go on and MAKE people love her?

I take that as an admission.

Actually, I take that back. I think you are playing games on here with people, and enjoying all the attention you are getting. I think you would like to know Jade, and probably have a fixation on her. You are trying to make it look like you know her, but I doubt that the above statement is true.

And Red/James, I am not being insulting, or straying from the post. I am simply commenting on a post made by this member. Other members are starting to get annoyed with this, including myself. Would you prefer it if I opened another thread to discuss this?

I agree with BAZ. Nodisharmony has got our attention and I fear that's all he's after.

Listen nodisharmony. YOU DON'T KNOW JADE. Keep posting fruitloop and we'll simply ignore you..

I'm with you on that one. No matter how hard it will be. lol

Don't use text speech that's against forum rules. LMFAO

lol

Watch it BAZ. Admin are going to be on your ass. It's a criminal offense to pose as a Moderator

what did I do? did I say something wrong?

See above^