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Beso 23-05-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049755)
So you seek to deny people's history over a hysteric fear and an assumption about an entire race. Grim.

It's not peoples history...


Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049758)
In sure there was plenty raping going on in africa before anyone was colonised...sign of the times I'm afraid:shrug:

'We should ignore the reality of our ancestors and live in ignorance over the past because other people were rapists to so that makes it okay.'

****ed up attitude. Ignorance breeds bigotry and you're arguing for ignorance by acting like the past is some sort of disease that infects the present. Acknowledging the past is how we ensure to never repeat it.

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049747)
So you think no black kid has learnt about slavery and spent the rest if his life hating whites for it :shrug:

Grow up.

Hmm, I think it's you who needs to grow up. You're living in a fantasy world.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049760)
It's not peoples history...


Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Wrong.

Personal history is different to world history, ancestral history, natural history, etc.

Choosing ignorance is never the answer.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049762)
'We should ignore the reality of our ancestors and live in ignorance over the past because other people were rapists to so that makes it okay.'

****ed up attitude. Ignorance breeds bigotry and you're arguing for ignorance by acting like the past is some sort of disease that infects the present. Acknowledging the past is how we ensure to never repeat it.



And hows that going so far dezzy..are we not repeating it or is it still happening?...I mean it's been 2021 years since jesus!!

And we are still teaching about him...

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049760)
It's not peoples history...


Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Except the reality of people's lives and where they are in the world is hugely reliant on what came before their birth. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that. People don't exist in a vacuum.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049764)
Wrong.

Personal history is different to world history, ancestral history, natural history, etc.

Choosing ignorance is never the answer.

Prince harry now hates the royal family....he was taught their history.:shrug:

It breeds hatred, and that's the end off it..

Put me on your pathetic little list as well if you want.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049766)
Except the reality of people's lives and where they are in the world is hugely reliant on what came before their birth. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that. People don't exist in a vacuum.

Because decades upon decades of teaching your countries history to kids has kept the history hatred alive to this day..

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049765)
And hows that going so far dezzy..are we not repeating it or is it still happening?...I mean it's been 2021 years since jesus!!

And we are still teaching about him...

Well, I haven't seen any world wars for a while, and the slave trade as it existed back then is basically done with, slavery still happens but the difference between then and now is that people fight against it, they learn from history and seek to undo it's failings. We don't stop learning from the past.

You're essentially arguing against education here, Parm. It's just really tragic.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049767)
Prince harry now hates the royal family....he was taught their history.:shrug:

It breeds hatred, and that's the end off it..

Put me on your pathetic little list as well if you want.

Well, he has nothing to do slavery or the argument of teaching history, but I'll indulge you.

What do you honestly think caused Harry's resentment of the system? Learning about Henry's wives being offed or living through his mother dying because of the system? Knowing first hand at the failings within it and how it doesn't protect the people he loves?

Apply a bit of thought and the answer is quite clear.

As for your last insult, have we reached the point where you realise you're losing and so you just throw out insults instead?

Beso 23-05-2021 04:41 PM

Nah..you ain't convinced me dezzy.

I still think it should be banned from teaching.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:42 PM

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:43 PM

Diana didnt die because of the system.
She died in a tunnel, miles and miles and miles away from her 2 precious boys, probably on the way to a shagging session with her fancy man.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:44 PM

Cognitive dissonance in action.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049774)
Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

I'm also entitled to believe I'm right, and to continue to believe so.

arista 23-05-2021 04:46 PM

Yes Dezzy,
the Full History must be taught.


Why is President Biden
not enforcing it?

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11049778)
Yes Dezzy,
the Full History must be taught.


Why is President Biden
not enforcing it?

Probably because education curriculum is something that is typically handled by the state governments and not the federal one.

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049768)
Because decades upon decades of teaching your countries history to kids has kept the history hatred alive to this day..

Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

arista 23-05-2021 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049779)
Probably because education curriculum is something that is typically handled by the state governments and not the federal one.



Yes they just
said on SkyNewsHD
in Texas, they are bringing Voter restrictions
Trump Won Texas, of course.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049784)
Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

It's an example of someone holding their feelings higher than the facts. There are no facts that support the idea that teaching people about racism makes people racist. The fact that each generation marches towards progress is proof of the opposite in fact.

When you teach people the grim reality of history, they typically learn from it and have, so far, tried to do better given the progress of civil rights over the past few generations.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11049785)
Yes they just
said on SkyNewsHD
in Texas, they are bringing Voter restrictions
Trump Won Texas, of course.

The GQP doesn't like that they lost, so they're trying to implement voter suppression wherever they can, when less people vote, republicans tend to win.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049784)
Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

I shall refer you to the year 2021 and why the world is still up in arms about who's jesus.

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049796)
I shall refer you to the year 2021 and why the world is sti up in arms about who's jesus.

Trying to change your argument this late in the game won't work pal.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049791)
I googled it.

And you are trying to make out I'm changing **** up to help my mental state.

Well, look at Diana, I'm fairly sure you've held her up as an argument for your beliefs in the past, and the moment I use her to argue against a point you've made. You shift gears and make out she died because she went to see her 'fancy man'.

Instead of admitting the failures of your argument, you twisted things around to support a failing argument. You held contrasting beliefs and you warped one to support the other.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049797)
Trying to change your argument this late in the game won't work pal.

It proves my argument in my head...:joker:

So I'm fine with it..

Any stats that prove teaching history works?


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