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Most big charities are a racket

in fact are there any that are not?

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11660473)

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.

"If" ?

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11660545)

@BBXX …(…I presume or am thinking…)…that individual States are blocking these funding withdrawals in court so Trump may not be able to carry this through, this is all just Trump noise…?..

Judge blocks Trump administration from enforcing anti-DEI orders in grant funding

A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from enforcing anti-diversity and anti-transgender executive orders in grant funding requirements that LGBTQ+ organizations say are unconstitutional.

Jon Tigar, a US district judge, said on Monday that the federal government cannot force recipients to halt programs that promote diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) or acknowledge the existence of transgender people in order to receive grant funding. The order will remain in effect while the legal case continues, although government lawyers will probably appeal.

The funding provisions “reflect an effort to censor constitutionally protected speech and services promoting DEI and recognizing the existence of transgender individuals”, Tigar wrote.

He went on to say that the executive branch must still be bound by the constitution in shaping its agenda and that even in the context of federal subsidies, “it cannot weaponize congressionally appropriated funds to single out protected communities for disfavored treatment or suppress ideas that it does not like or has deemed dangerous”.

The plaintiffs include health centers, LGBTQ+ services groups and the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Historical Society. All receive federal funding and say they cannot complete their missions by following the president’s executive orders.

The San Francisco Aids Foundation, one of the plaintiffs, said in 2023 it received a five-year grant from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to expand and enhance sexual health services, including the prevention of sexually transmitted infections. The $1.3m project specifically targets communities disproportionately affected by sexual health disparities.

But in April, the CDC informed the non-profit that it must “immediately terminate all programs, personnel, activities, or contracts” that promote DEI or gender ideology.

Donald Trump has signed a flurry of executive orders since his second presidency began in January, including ones to roll back transgender protections and stop DEI programs. Lawyers for the government say that the president is permitted to “align government funding and enforcement strategies” with his policies.

Plaintiffs say that Congress – and not the president – has the power to condition how federal funds are used, and that the executive orders restrict free speech rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nti-dei-grants

I'm personally not a big lover of DEI myself if I'm being entirely honest, it should always be based on merit regardless of what community you come from.

However, Trump is meant to be running a democratic country, so if a company wants to run itself on a DEI model then they have the right to do that.

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11660632)

"If" ?

You know what I mean.:laugh:

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11660612)

Because sometimes you want to talk to somebody like you who understands the struggle. There’s nothing wrong in that. It will all depend on what they are calling for.

Yeah

And I want to cry and wail at somebody that's going through what I've been going through, but I doubt many of them even have the strength to even get up in the morning.

To think that talking to an LGBTQ operative over the phone at your lowest moment is connecting with someone who's shared the same pain is ****ing idiotic.

Get a grip of normality.

I'm ready to laugh if we find out that the reason the LGBTQ+ line/Trevor Project contract was cut because too many people calling in to complain about his policies.

I mean, it's entirely possible...

(Jan 17)
The Trevor Project to undergo layoffs and restructuring in major 'transformation'
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...ion-rcna188067

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Jaymes Black, who became the nonprofit’s CEO last July, said the organization, which has around 600 employees, is in the midst of a “perfect storm” — soaring crisis calls and messages from LGBTQ youths, an increasingly hostile political climate for LGBTQ rights and a drop in individual donations.

It looks like people can still call the Trevor Project directly, though. They're just not routing callers from the 988 switch board...

I can't find any specific reason why the contract was cut, but I don't think it's money. We're not that fiscally responsible. But the centers do seem to have a general funding problem...

How we're doing locally:

(From 2023)
Houston suicide crisis call center working to meet surge in calls to new 988 hotline
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...s-17760082.php

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Calls to the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline have surged in Texas and the United States since its launch last summer, highlighting the demand for mental health services in the wake of the pandemic and the related workforce challenges.

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Texas answers roughly 70 percent of the in-state calls, an improvement from roughly 40 percent several years ago, Battle said. The rest get diverted to a national backup call center. Although the state lags behind others by that metric and is working to improve upon it, Battle said, Texas still answers more calls than every state except California and New York.

Not boding well:

(2025)
Amid a $7 million deficit to Texas’ suicide hotline, thousands of calls are abandoned monthly
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01...nding-deficit/

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When people call a 988 call center, they first hear an electronic greeting that will give them a series of choices, including for Spanish speakers, veterans, and LGBTQI-plus youth. Depending on what callers select, the system could transfer them to an organization that fits their needs, including the Trevor Project and the Veterans Crisis Line.

If callers do not pick any of these options, they are usually transferred to their closest 988 call center and if nobody is available there, they are transferred to another until they reach a crisis counselor, sometimes out of state. It is during these multiple transfers when people often hang up.

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11660759)

To think that talking to an LGBTQ operative over the phone at your lowest moment is connecting with someone who's shared the same pain is ****ing idiotic.

Get a grip of normality.

It’s not about them BEING LGBTQ, it’s about them UNDERSTANDING LGBTQ issues because if you understand then you’re going to know how to navigate the conversation better to reach a safe conclusion.

…although grant government funding isn’t a reliable finance support source for charities because it fluctuates etc…well, similar to all funding/whether it be for a charity or something like a school/education…it is vital and obviously can mean life or death to a charity…to scrap it as is aimed by Trump is very much targeting of a section of society and truly abhorrent…I just can’t fathom how anyone could ever think of him as a man of the people…he’s a man obsessed with power…

Trump is a disrupter and he does that really well. While his intentions are often less than honorable, he forces people to rethink how they approach things, which is often a good thing in reality. I think what i'm saying is, that it will end up better in the end

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11660810)

Trump is a disrupter and he does that really well. While his intentions are often less than honorable, he forces people to rethink how they approach things, which is often a good thing in reality. I think what i'm saying is, that it will end up better in the end

Yes well put.

This why he won the Election.

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11660759)

I think you’re the one being idiotic to be perfectly honest with that mindset.

If a gay person is feeling suicidal because they are struggling dealing with being gay (could be a number of reasons why, but let’s say because they are from a homophobic family and terrified to come out which is making them depressed leading them to feel suicidal) then calling a line dedicated to lgbqt+ to speak with people who may have been through similar or can understand what’s it’s like to deal with coming out of course they are more likely to go to them for guidance/help.

You’ll never experience it (luckily) but before coming out life is quite terrifying and really sits heavy on your shoulders and mental health worrying about how everyone will react. And this is as a teenager/young adult. I count myself lucky I had no issues when I did come out. But not everyone is so lucky, especially if they are surrounded by people who are homophobic.

…I read that Trump recently has cancelled 68 grants that were applied to LGBQT+ health related issues…/…including some that were focused on continued HIV prevention researches…

No reason to do this..I could 'kinda' understand if they were costing a fortune (though I would still prob argue that it was needed) but for self funded businesses it seems ****.

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11661169)

…I read that Trump recently has cancelled 68 grants that were applied to LGBQT+ health related issues…/…including some that were focused on continued HIV prevention researches…

Wow! Just when you think that he couldn't become a bigger arsehole.

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11661199)

I wonder why

To save on funding

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11661233)

To save on funding

lol

another good thing by the all time best US president :clap2:

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11660799)

There should be extra lines for all the peoples problems in that case. Even with a dedicated line for LGBTQ you still ain't guaranteed to be talking with someone who went through what you are going through, therefore you would be just as well on another line talking with someone else fullly trained. People who are not LGBTQ can still understand all issues regarding LGBTQ, and in particular suicidal feelings surrounding it.

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11661809)

I wasn't suggesting they had to have gone through the same thing, but be trained in LGBT issues.

A lot of straight people don't understand LGBT issues, proven by this site time and time again.

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11661815)

I wasn't suggesting they had to have gone through the same thing, but be trained in LGBT issues.

A lot of straight people don't understand LGBT issues, proven by this site time and time again.

You would think people manning a suicide prevention line would though...No?

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11661832)

You would think people manning a suicide prevention line would though...No?

Potentially yes, but I also think there'd be people training in specialist situations and with specific issues and causes for suicidal thoughts. It's a bit like therapy - there are therapists that are training/educated in certain specific subjects. This is no different. Having a line dedicated to a subject gives confidence who you're speaking to is trained to deal with LGBT issues.

When there is no cost saving and no actual benefit of removing such a service, it is really weird to support its removal so much. Very strange.

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11661790)

another good thing by the all time best US president :clap2:

Explain the benefits.