If you're scared of someone you don't continue to goad them into a reaction. I'm not accepting that she felt afraid and intimidated by Brian.

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Exactly. That's the same as me picking out the single moment where Brian was standing over Helen calling her scum etc. and saying he was bullying her. People need to look at the whole argument here.

Thanks.

I'm losing the will to live with this thread.

Kind of agree with the OP and a few Helen fans too. I think Helen was stitched up by BB and I'm a bit stunned she didnt see it coming or should I say her horrible personality made sure she didnt see it coming. I think she finally got it when she made the comment that she'd been portrayed as a bully. I'm not gonna get into whether she did or didnt bully anyone but her behaviour was very odd for an ex winner with nothing to prove who had been invited on to the show for a fee. Does Helen think she earned her money? I think she did a Jade Goody and is unlikely to ever be invited back. The use of the Poison track by Scherzinger for her leaving music made me laugh . It was very appropriate.

For me the comment that she made to Brian along the lines of 'What would you do if the cameras werent here' when it was clear he was about to blow. That is a straight up taunt. I dont know how she thinks he can get away with things like that. And then to really take the p*ss, she laughed. She knew what she was doing, she knew she'd wound him up and she thought this was funny. Oh dear!!!!

The other comment have been discussed. I';m not gonna say Brian was a saint of Nikki for that matter but did it never occur to Helen who she was arguing with? Both are more liked than hated, she's more hated than liked. It doesn't take genius to figure out that maybe it would be better if they picked their fight more carefully. Helen is most certainly not that genius.

Instead he's getting a laughable stop bullying Brian campaign.

doesn't that work the other way as well...i mean the whole thread is about poor brian being bullied and intimidated by helen...yet he continuously started arguments with helen..even helen and marc together..

seem by your own logic you would have to concede brain wasn't bullied

Almost forgot to mention the water works she turned on when she was crying with anger. First of all, what kind of person cries in anger. Thats completely ******ed up to start with.

This was the woman who has never been up for eviction yet was telling the HM's they've just got to get over it like she'd know anything about what it was like. Yet when she was picked on we get tears. What about get over it Helen. She is a walking contradiction.

is kinda sad to go from the great entertaining bb winner to the poor little man helen wood made cry...thinking about that..i do feel kinda sorry for him

Not from me he's not, I remember him the 1st time he was in,he was not wrapped up right then,maybe that why he only entered this time as an after thought when Gina refused the day before she was due in ,Belo has always been desperate,bet he keeps a suitcase packed ready in his bedsit waiting for a call

LOTS of people cry in anger, including me

That doesn't surprise me.

I cry when I'm angry/frustrated and my mother does, it's not all that unusual or '****ed up' as you seem to be indicating.

I do it at the same time I stamp my feet :joker:

If you've never cried in anger,you've never been truly angry.

I get angry when I'm angry so no.

Frustrated is understandable but crying when angry seem unusual to me.

So because you don't react a certain way to something, everyone else who does is ****ed up? righto

You think crying when angry is usual? Righto

I get angry when I'm angry I get upset when I'm upset I dont equate anger and upset as being at all similar.

He should go on Love Island, he'll soon find out that Helen isn't the only one that doesn't suffer fools gladly.

psychologist describe crying as the emotion you use to create comfort for an emotion. To gain comfort from crying when angry is very unusual.

Crying when angry is not about being upset, it's about the frustration that comes along with anger, as you said, crying when frustrated is understandable and I, like I imagine a lot of people, get frustrated when I get angry, they go hand in hand and is not really that unusual, I don't cry when I get upset, that's just how my body deals with things, but when I get angry, it's either let my anger out through tears, or hit the roof and explode at someone, I myself, prefer the former option.

So you have created the comfort of crying to deal with anger. Thats unusual.

Psychologists appear to talk rubbish. Mine recently told me I am borderline sociopathic :umm2: Sociopaths tend to love themselves, be overly confident and charming, etc etc. Only trait I have in common I'm not a very emotional person and rarely feel guilt, even when I should...

I lost a lot of faith in docs/quacks and such recently :laugh:

Also, my partner crys when he is angry. He also taps his foot repeatedly and can't control it. I find it so odd :S

To you maybe so.

I also do this..

Looks like you guys need to go to anger management. I fer you are not managing your anger very well and giving people the wrong impression about your emotions.

That's the most patronising thing that's ever been said to me on here and I've had people questioning my skills as a carer before, how dare you.

If you cry regularly when you are angry then I stand by my words.

You can dismiss the work of all psychologists if you want but I think there is some truth in much that is said.

Well your words are wrong, not only are they wrong, but they're offensive.

How offensive? You cry when you are angry. Incidentally are you crying now? That is most definitely not something that most people do. What the problem?

Most people don't act like jumped up therapists because they read a few words that psychologists say, but alas, you're doing that.

I think we have established that a lot of people do cry when they are angry, including myself, so I think maybe you need to stop being so condescending and telling others about how to deal with emotions.

Where did we establish that? I'm looking it up and its most definitely not something that a lot of people do.

How do you know? Have you conducted some kind of survey? Because a lot of people I know do. I think that you should just admit you may be wrong on this occasion.

AM I.? Cus I think its strange to cry when angry. OK then. :thumbs:

No, you're taking my posts and trying to disect them to turn it around on me and make out like I have some sort of anger issue, because I deal with anger a different way to you.. you're being condescending, rude, offensive and obnoxious.

You can read all the bull**** that psychologists say until the cows come home, but don't you dare have the audacity to try and diagnose me with some sort of issue because I do something differently to you.

This is just getting laughable now.:joker:

So do you throw drinks at the wall when you are angry or sit crying in the corner?

Well some psychologists may disagree with you...

Crying does serve an emotional purpose, says Sideroff, also an assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine. "It's a release. There is a buildup of energy with feelings."

''When you cry," she says, "it's a signal you need to address something." Among other things, it may mean you are frustrated, overwhelmed or even just trying to get someone's attention.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/feature...ring-up?page=2

Exactly. 'A build up of energy with feeling' and you display that when you are angry by.....crying. Ok Then you are all right and I am wrong :joker: But I agree with the article you've found.