Ann is likely to be privy to information that we are not aware of, she may be old fashioned but she wouldn't have said what she did without some form of reason

I really pity that poor girl, she has no idea what kind of baseless criticisms she's about to face

I think Anne's remarks are not racist but a reference to those courtiers in the Royal Household who can make a new member of the family feel like it is racism.

Can anyone recently remember the Marquis of Baths daughter in law who is of mixed race and her husbands mother mentioned spoiling the bloodline if they had children.

I think racism in the aristocracy is still happening and if it was difficult for Diana to cope with these people whilst being a member of the aristocracy, think how it might be for Meghan.

This is what I think Anne meant.

While the Royals accept Meghan with open arms this does not mean the courtiers, sycophants and toadies will and can cause her no end of hurts.

I do not care for this "What Meghan can bring to the Royals" claptrap. They do not need her, a divorced, older actress of mixed parentage, at all. She has a huge debt to Diana for paving the way as the Royals cannot have another scandal as they only hung on after Charles and Camilla nearly lost all respect for the Royal family and it is only the Queen, William and Kate holding it together.

I noticed that Meghan was using her acting and posing skills when interviewed for the engagement, far too cocky and confident. However, it was different at Christmas when she was quite nervous and she has to know she is a junior member, not the star.

I think this is the trouble Anne meant also.

I hear you mum there. I remember that too and feel more empathy towards William and Harry than other members of their family, not being a royalist and all.

Don't get me started, I'll rant about the home office until the end of time!

You can dislike people for no particular reason its just a feeling you have

Thats how I feel, I remember them both being born and Dianas funeral broke my heart watching them both, and its like a Mums instinct that Meghan is just not right for Harry

I wonder if Meghan will be able to cope with being second to Kate. Over time it might rankle. Particularly if she is entering this life as a form of performance.

But you seem to have quite a few reasons.

Although I don't know what's meant by not a lady.

She did give a reason...she said she had added all the facts up and thats how she feels about it...why do you have such a problem with anns views?

I do think Harry had a crush on Kate and envied his brothers life with her.

I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.

Divorced, Older, Actress, Mixed Race.

I do hope he is in love with Meghan and not wanting just to push the boundaries.

Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.

I honestly think all these maybes is what Anne was referring to.

How on Earth could you decide Harry has a crush on Kate, I'm genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion? [emoji23]

Harry always seemed the sort who wouldn't want to marry deeper into the royal family. And to be fair, wouldn't she really more of a modern princess anyway? She's an American actress from LA... so she is going to be all sorts of tech savvy and know all about keeping a brand, especially if her face is tied to any organizations. Isn't that really what a defunct royal family is in 2018, anyway? A brand?

They were always together, laughing and enjoying each other's company when William was doing his duties elsewhere.

They obviously got on very well and Kate's family life was something William craved and Harry too.

I am not saying there was anything more but Harry always mooned after Kate, we saw it frequently and spoke about it.

Meghan doesn't look a million miles unlike Kate either. That's how on earth I could say it.

Really? He could have done a lot more if rebellion was on his mind.

Rich, charitable, famous. She's not all that different.

And everyone making a fuss over this apparent age gap. It's less than three years ffs.

Exactly. They're function is merely a reminder of a once upon a time tradition that serve very little purpose in the modern world.

They're basically English Kardashians. :joker:

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Kate and William already have an interesting mix of genes. As I commented earlier, Meghan could be a sister of Pippa Middleton. George and Charlotte have brown eyes, the blue eyes have gone from the infant heirs to the throne. It's interesting how the tabloids keep pushing how much Charlotte looks like the Queen, but she doesn't, she looks like Carole Middleton.

Meghan and Pippa.

http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-cultu...alike/?slide=1

Meghan is better looking though

What can Ann possibly know about Megans 'attitude'. What an odd thing to say.

Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.

Well it seems the "trouble" has already started. Meghan's half-sister in the paper today saying "If you can spend $75,000 on a dress, you can spend $75,000 on your dad". The father is cash-strapped it seems.

Oh dear. The royals have been free of the 'sensationalised' headlines for quite a few years. It will all begin again now - the last thing the 'Firm' want.

I took background to mean acting career, not sure what her attitude is

Ann, my dear

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Lots of people feel the same way, something's not quite settled and they can;t quite put their finger on it.

Watching Harry's body language around her: he is almost a bit edgy, unrelaxed.
Certainly not natural and easy like William and Kate are with each other.

Hmmm

Time will tell

When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.

Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'

Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.

Thankyou :clap1:
I'm not even a Royal fan but I hate the double standards, it's ok for Prince Charles to marry his mistress? . But people doubt Meghan because she's previously been married FGS ! :bored: .

No, we watched Harry over the years moon after Kate.

it wasn't a video or just a photo at all. It was many times when they attended functions, on the balcony at Buckingham Palace and at sports venues.

I am too old to be a fan of anybody so please could you not downplay what posters write for your own agendas. Thank you.

You're too old to be pretending to know someone from a few pap shots. :umm2:

That's you placing your own narrative over what is essentially paparazzi footage though, you don't know them, none of us do so why present what is essentially a baseless theory as fact?

Like I said, fan fiction.

Where have I said I know them?

It is my opinion and I stand by it.

Yours is your opinion too, we disagree and it is called democracy.

Well, presuming to know their feelings is presuming to know them.

You're old enough to understand that basic concept.

Why am I old enough? I have an opinion on seeing them so many times enjoying each other's company. So therefore is it too hard to understand that Harry might have had a crush?

My teenage daughter thinks so too.

From a picture.... of people you don't know.

Your teenage daughter thinks so??? Well why didn't you say that to begin with???

I'm convinced now. :)

That's absolutely terrific, so pleased you agree.

Goodnight xx
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Pop sugar?

Here was me thinking you were a grown woman. :/

An eye roll moment.

Just come across as close friends in those photographs, or brother-in-law that gets on well with his sister-in-law.

As for what Ann said, she wasn't talking about the fact Meghan is divorced or 3 years older than Harry because Rachel mentioned those facts and Ann said "yes, those too".

The newspapers are reporting it as Ann branded as a racist dinosaur.

Background and attitude, it could be perceived as code for race and/or could mean other things.

Ambigious, so no way of knowing for sure what she means.