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WOMBAI 12-09-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 3785803)
Fair enough :p but the point still stands, its a bit of a grey area, since men and women are different pyshically and mentally

I really don't see why people keep bringing physical strength into it - because, in reality, it is pretty irrelevant! The reason humans rule the planet and not many physically stronger mammels - is because of their higher intelligence!

Men do not all have the same physical strength - some are much stronger than others. Does that mean they should be treated differently - of course not. Emotional strength is much more relevant - and that is much more a character trait - not a gender one!

arista 12-09-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3785811)
I really don't see why people keep bringing physical strength into it - because, in reality, it is pretty irrelevant! The reason humans rule the planet and not many physically stronger mammels - is because of their higher intelligence!

Men do not all have the same physical strength - some are much stronger than others. Does that mean they should be treated differently - of course not. Emotional strength is much more relevant - and that is much more a character trait - not a gender one!


Of Course.

Zippy 12-09-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3785811)
I really don't see why people keep bringing physical strength into it - because, in reality, it is pretty irrelevant!

Well nature did make men physically stronger for a reason. They were intended to be the hunters and providers. Women the nurturers and home-makers.

Of course, we've deviated from that to some extent but the generalisation is still very much there. You don't see many women in physical labour jobs like construction for example.

And in terms of abuse the legal system will certainly take a man hitting a woman far more seriously than vice versa. Purely because men are deemed physically stronger and capable of more damage.

So the physical difference does come into play in all aspects of life. And you certainly still hear many women talking about wanting a big guy who can protect them!

WOMBAI 12-09-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3785878)
Well nature did make men physically stronger for a reason. They were intended to be the hunters and providers. Women the nurturers and home-makers.

Of course, we've deviated from that to some extent but the generalisation is still very much there. You don't see many women in physical labour jobs like construction for example.

And in terms of abuse the legal system will certainly take a man hitting a woman far more seriously than vice versa. Purely because men are deemed physically stronger and capable of more damage.

So the physical difference does come into play in all aspects of life. And you certainly still hear many women talking about wanting a big guy who can protect them!

Of course I realise why men were created physically stronger - but the reasons for that no longer apply in modern times! We have the intelligence to build machines to do the heavy lifting, for example!

I think it is just common sense that the law takes men hitting women more seriously - given the difference in physical strenth - just as a grown adult, man or woman - shoudn't hit a smaller, physically weaker child! It is far more likely to result in serious physical injury - and cannot be condoned in any way, shape or form - although this doesn't give women license to hit men - assault is assualt - and should be treated accordingly!

And women may feel safer in given situations when with a physically strong man - but that doesn't mean they want or need to be protected per se! But there are always certain types of soppy women - that can't cope without a man - but we certainly shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush!

Angus 12-09-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimnir (Post 3785395)
so after this most profound, lifechanging and most meaningful experience in the world of giving birth, why do so many women in today's society choose career instead of devoting themselves to their family?

Because they can - why shouldn't they FGS? Are you suggesting that men can have it all, but women can't?:laugh: Women need to fulfil their potential and aspirations as much as men do. For some women having children and being a stay at home mum is fulfilling enough, but for others it is not. Not all men have careers, a lot make just enough money to go piss it up the wall at weekends, and some can barely make it to the signing on queue once a fortnight, so don't let's pretend that all men are movers and shakers, because we all know that isn't true:rolleyes:

If you have no valid stereotype for ALL men, don't try imposing one on ALL women.

30stone 12-09-2010 08:24 PM

Quite funny how often women say men couldnt handle pregnancy..
We could.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 12-09-2010 08:31 PM

waits for

*get back in dat kitchen an make ma dinner betch*

response

Captain.Remy 12-09-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsays (Post 3786166)
waits for

*get back in dat kitchen an make ma dinner betch*

response

it's "bitch" actually. :wink:

:laugh:

Angus 12-09-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3785616)
Men also dominate what women are supposed to be best at. The best hairdressers, fashion designers, chefs etc are all men

Historically men have used their aggression and strength to subjugate women and maintain control over them. Is it any wonder that during countless centuries when only men were educated and allowed the freedom to travel and explore, that it is the male sex that has dominated science, literature, art and technology etc. Had women also been afforded the same privileges that men have always had, human beings might have followed a very different evolutionary path and who knows which sex would be the dominant one now, or maybe we would all have been hermaphrodites - truly equal in every possible way! As things stand, there is still one area in which men will never be able to compete.

brian3 12-09-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3785963)

And women may feel safer in given situations when with a physically strong man - but that doesn't mean they want or need to be protected per se! But there are always certain types of soppy women - that can't cope without a man - but we certainly shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush!


Wombai: "common knowledge men are generally more competitive than women - and that is about egos! Men want to win! Deny that all you like - but it is true!"

What was that you where saying about taring people with the same brush?

Zippy 12-09-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3786150)
Quite funny how often women say men couldnt handle pregnancy..
We could.

No chance. Men are just not in touch with their internals like women are. The kinds of physical changes and sicknesses associated with pregnancy would be alien to men. And that maternal instinct is something very primal and instinctive in women. Its what gets them through pregnancy.

Men just don't have it. And men actually have quite low pain thresholds compared to women.

Ninastar 12-09-2010 08:47 PM

yaah

abbey97 12-09-2010 08:48 PM

Yes, whats the difference apart from body parts?!

Angus 12-09-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 3786150)
Quite funny how often women say men couldnt handle pregnancy..
We could.

Easy to say when you'll never have to go through it:rolleyes:

Captain.Remy 12-09-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 3786203)
yaah

great deep explanation from our friend Nina. Always helpful. :tongue:

(I'm kidding babe, I like you)

Captain.Remy 12-09-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3786224)
Easy to say when you'll never have to go through it:rolleyes:

Male Seahorses can do it, so why not us ? :tongue:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 12-09-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3786173)
it's "bitch" actually. :wink:

:laugh:

no really, its betch its my new word hunny

Captain.Remy 12-09-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsays (Post 3786242)
no really, its betch its my new word hunny

talk to the hand, gurl.

Angus 12-09-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3786236)
Male Seahorses can do it, so why not us ? :tongue:

Well you're a fella, so with that massively superior brain of yours you must be able to come up with a viable method for male procreation.:laugh2:

Captain.Remy 12-09-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3786252)
Well you're a fella, so with that massively superior brain of yours you must be able to come up with a viable method for male procreation.:laugh2:

I'm sure arista will come out with something. He's always full of ideas and stuff.

But yeah I've got a big brain. But my girlfriend has one too (wait...what ?) AND she's fit. So yeah, it works well. :hugesmile:

Angus 12-09-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3786264)
I'm sure arista will come out with something. He's always full of ideas and stuff.

But yeah I've got a big brain. But my girlfriend has one too (wait...what ?) AND she's fit. So yeah, it works well. :hugesmile:

Lol! You're sorted then:hugesmile:

Beastie 12-09-2010 09:14 PM

Yes.

Angus 12-09-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3786311)
Yes.



Short, succint and to the point!:hugesmile:

Beastie 12-09-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3786388)
Short, succint and to the point!:hugesmile:

That's me Angus ;)

Angus 12-09-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3786394)
That's me Angus ;)

And there's me been playing the womb card all evening:laugh:


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