Wasn't RVP complaining of being over trained, and generally unhappy with the new training regime in pre-season? Which in turn then breaks his body down for most of this season. Not sure why Moyes gets a pass on that tbh.

The best way to judge, is by asking whether you honestly believe that Jose would have them struggling down in 7th, if he'd been given the job instead of "the chosen one".

I hope they win the league cup this year. Don't want those Glazers getting twitchy, and a nice trophy on display for his first year should guarantee at least another 1, and hopefully another 2 years. Moyes has the feel of Hodgson about him, especially with some of his comments, for example: "we got near the Swansea area on quite a few occasions", and wanting to go and celebrate after beating Wigan in the CS are classics.

He may go on to become the worlds greatest ever manager - but there is absolutely nothing in his past or present to suggest he might, and how he replaces the ageing players will define your next 10-20 years. It's much harder to play catchup when players think you're a busted flush.

I've always supported Moyes and always will, but taking Champions to outside the top 4 should result in a sacking if that is what happens. No excuse. Yeah, it may not be "our way", but no other top club would of even waited until the end of the season really.

I'm not even going to use the weak squad excuse anymore, because every United fan knows deep down that isn't really the case bar the midfield which could of been sorted out in the summer.

Should go for Ander again

That sums him up for me. :joker:

I doubt Moyes ever goes into a game, any game, thinking he's gonna win 3 or 4 nil. He's pragmatic and makes the best of what he's got but she's too small time for a club like Man Utd.

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fergie watching the game with mick hucknall :joker:

tbf it can only make things harder for Moyes when Fergie is there at every game anyway looming over him, it's like he never left

yup

You ****ing idiot,Leon.

A lass I work with goes out with his son.. I met him at Xmas but had no idea who he (or his dad) was :)

Tell him his dad needs to quit and asap.

ATM United is Villa but on a grander scale

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Without question

The reality check he has had to deal with is unreal. He went from a team with the likes Luak , Baines , Barkley , Meralies(sp) to one with RVP(could not score in a brothel) Valencia (Could not score period) Young (More likely to score an own goal) Evra

Not at all. Needs to stay at United for a few more seasons.

Totally out of his depth. We knew it before. I look back now and see why I hated him being appointed. Never wanted this waster.

Moyes after 2-0 defeat to Olympiakos: "They have a very good home record so it wasn't unexpected." #MUFC

please tell me this isn't real

Heard he said 'I didn't see it coming'.

TV3 interview.

Interviewer: over the years in your Manchester United career you've always had someone to grab you by the scruff of the neck and get you out of tough spots. That was Alex Ferguson. You believe this manager can do that for you?

Carrick: Well. Erm. Sir Alex wasn't on the pitch it's up to us as players to respond.
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I think I know what he was trying to do by putting the blame on themselves, but **** me :laugh:

For those who are dutch, RvP is interviewed atm at NOS.

For the english lads,

Robin said he was unhappy with the game, we played bad but they didn't create much either. The chance I had went pretty good but the shot was to hasty and if you only get one chance in a match like this...you need to score it.

But now it gets interesting. Jack van Gelder (interviewer) asked if Robin feels frustrated to be isolated all the time and because of that feels the urge to drop back.

This is RvP's reply: I do, because certain team mates keep playing in my area and constantly moving to me which makes it extremely hard for me to also play there. I now constantly have to make a run to a different position to avoid this.

Interview: Do you know what is wrong with this United?

RvP: Yeah but, I won't point fingers, because im not like that.

Could easily of been twisted. Will have to see if English media pick it up.

RVP or Moyes... Tough one.

:joker:

It gives me no pleasure that I started this thread. :pipe:

talkSPORT reporting the RVP quotes were taken out of context.

They twisted this bit slightly according to my dad who was watching it on Dutch Tele in his room. He was talking about how he would like to come back deep to touch the ball, but because there are players there already(Rooney obv lol) he feels the need to alter his runs and play differently.

Still seems like he's unhappy with the tactics though.....hardly blame him. He said he was laughing non stop..that annoys me the most really more than anything he said there.

EDIT: you beat me to it anyway lol.

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Time to bring Adnan in and out at the right times. Biggest game of the season was deemed the right time to take him out? And with no game for 11 days. Totally out of his depth.

Petition for me, Leon and bbfan to take charge.

In Moyes we trust, the choice of the people

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