Same :laugh:

The Brian is a woman beater argument again. Grasping at straws

"she replys..he shout up..not on the verge of tears..but trying to keep from exploding in angry"

Yes i did....he wasn't on the verge of tears..she was continuing an argument...

are you suggesting that in an argument..if your opponent stops talking you are required to as well? he wasn't picked on..he wasn't bullied..he was out argued..and lost his temper as a result..again

The thing is you cant take one part of a conversation out of context and call it bullying. Brian initiated the events that started that conflict with completely over the top and aggressive behaviour. I will use the slightly more acceptable term, he looked demented. A perfectly accurate description for how he looked and behaved. Helen may not have the command of English that others have, but her meaning was clear. She felt unsettled and scared by his behaviour. Lets also not forget it took the large housemates to keep Brian from going at Helen.

No matter how you want to describe it, if someone behaves in the aggressive manner that Brian was, he was not being bullied, and to say he was is a gross misinterpretation of the situation

He needed a straight jacket?

If you're scared of someone you don't continue to goad them into a reaction. I'm not accepting that she felt afraid and intimidated by Brian.

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Exactly. That's the same as me picking out the single moment where Brian was standing over Helen calling her scum etc. and saying he was bullying her. People need to look at the whole argument here.

Thanks.

I'm losing the will to live with this thread.

Kind of agree with the OP and a few Helen fans too. I think Helen was stitched up by BB and I'm a bit stunned she didnt see it coming or should I say her horrible personality made sure she didnt see it coming. I think she finally got it when she made the comment that she'd been portrayed as a bully. I'm not gonna get into whether she did or didnt bully anyone but her behaviour was very odd for an ex winner with nothing to prove who had been invited on to the show for a fee. Does Helen think she earned her money? I think she did a Jade Goody and is unlikely to ever be invited back. The use of the Poison track by Scherzinger for her leaving music made me laugh . It was very appropriate.

For me the comment that she made to Brian along the lines of 'What would you do if the cameras werent here' when it was clear he was about to blow. That is a straight up taunt. I dont know how she thinks he can get away with things like that. And then to really take the p*ss, she laughed. She knew what she was doing, she knew she'd wound him up and she thought this was funny. Oh dear!!!!

The other comment have been discussed. I';m not gonna say Brian was a saint of Nikki for that matter but did it never occur to Helen who she was arguing with? Both are more liked than hated, she's more hated than liked. It doesn't take genius to figure out that maybe it would be better if they picked their fight more carefully. Helen is most certainly not that genius.

Instead he's getting a laughable stop bullying Brian campaign.

doesn't that work the other way as well...i mean the whole thread is about poor brian being bullied and intimidated by helen...yet he continuously started arguments with helen..even helen and marc together..

seem by your own logic you would have to concede brain wasn't bullied

Almost forgot to mention the water works she turned on when she was crying with anger. First of all, what kind of person cries in anger. Thats completely ******ed up to start with.

This was the woman who has never been up for eviction yet was telling the HM's they've just got to get over it like she'd know anything about what it was like. Yet when she was picked on we get tears. What about get over it Helen. She is a walking contradiction.

is kinda sad to go from the great entertaining bb winner to the poor little man helen wood made cry...thinking about that..i do feel kinda sorry for him

Not from me he's not, I remember him the 1st time he was in,he was not wrapped up right then,maybe that why he only entered this time as an after thought when Gina refused the day before she was due in ,Belo has always been desperate,bet he keeps a suitcase packed ready in his bedsit waiting for a call

LOTS of people cry in anger, including me

That doesn't surprise me.

I cry when I'm angry/frustrated and my mother does, it's not all that unusual or '****ed up' as you seem to be indicating.

I do it at the same time I stamp my feet :joker:

If you've never cried in anger,you've never been truly angry.

I get angry when I'm angry so no.

Frustrated is understandable but crying when angry seem unusual to me.

So because you don't react a certain way to something, everyone else who does is ****ed up? righto

You think crying when angry is usual? Righto

I get angry when I'm angry I get upset when I'm upset I dont equate anger and upset as being at all similar.

He should go on Love Island, he'll soon find out that Helen isn't the only one that doesn't suffer fools gladly.

psychologist describe crying as the emotion you use to create comfort for an emotion. To gain comfort from crying when angry is very unusual.