Debates about history and religion is not repeating past mistakes. People still theorise about all kinds of history. Nothing you've said has changed the fact that your stance is one not backed up by any facts or logic.

I've never mentioned diana on here....I think she was a **** mum, so i reckon if i have mentioned her it would have been along those lines.

Well, as long as it makes sense in your head.

You mean apart from all the progress we've made down the generations? Sure.

Except when you did...

Debates is fine for adults. But , it's when some young kid gets a reason to hate taught to them..that's when it changes for me.

History didnt change the slave trade

If people didn't learn from history, we'd have had a few more world wars by now, black people would probably still have fewer rights than white people in america, women would have probably had rights stripped away from them again and being gay would be illegal.

Learning from the past works because there's proof of it everywhere you look.

Along those lines.:shrug:

Useless post, you need that deducted from your post count tbh.

Except it did. You're getting confused about what you're trying to argue against.

Yes..I agree.

But the world has stabilised enough now for the past to be untaught in schools.

If its taught more it just gives the worlds kids an opportunity to begin hating and using again on a selected target.

It did not. There was no history of american slavery, it just happened, then was abolished


Nothing to do with history at all.

So your argument is basically.... I'm sick of racism talk, I'm white and I'm not racist so let's forget it because it makes me uncomfortable to discuss. Rather than any actual incidence of history in schools causing this so-called hate.

Ok.

The slave trade has nothing to do with racism...it was merely money motivated.

Again, changing your argument this late in the game is not going to work.

You've gone from claiming history of the slave trade being taught creates racism to the slave trade is not about race. Have you forgotten what your point was?

I've made my point, you just dont understand it.


I've had, and said my piece on this subject..:wavey:

Nah, you're talking yourself in circles.

Saying that history is pointless because it can't prevent something that didn't happen in history before is ridiculous. Tell me, since slavery was abolished, have we as a nation led any boats to africa to kidnap people to sell on as slaves? Have black people been regularly enslaved in the US?

The problem is that you're constantly trying to change the goalposts and worm your way out of admitting you're wrong when you don't really have another option. You can't argue against people learning from history's mistakes since pretty much all our civil advances over the years have been reliant on learning from past injustices and so now you're trying to make out that history shouldn't be taught because it couldn't something from happening that didn't happen before.

The slave trade happened, it was abolished and people learned from it, which is why Europe isn't running a modern day slave trade today.

Of course it did, white people saw black people as being lesser which is why they sold them like animals. Denying the racism of the situation is as pointless as saying that history shouldn't be taught.

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some "white" people did

The VAST MAJORITY had nothing to do with it

I learned that in History lessons

What was the US civil war about? Vast majority suggests at least 80%.

im talking about the world, not North America and even if i was the figure stands in terms of involvement in the trade.

And that doesn't stop me from responding as I please.

Sure.

Not everyone has seen Roots , and schools are very limited with what they actually teach. I remember thinking how weird it is how the focus was mostly on Henry the 8th and Hastings 1066 etc.

Kids are also inquisitive, so maybe we should quit trying to water down history :hee:.