Fair enough, but...

When you have the ability to know what will motivate "more people" to sit and "chat" I am sure that you can make that proclamation.

I do think it's worth dwelling on when there is an entire culture out there that thinks its ok to throw gays off buildings. The more that culture is brought into the country, the more incidents you are going to get. It's simple statistics. It seems insane for people to tie themselves in knots trying to ignore it

Both her and Cherie went directly in with "this is what happens when we import boatloads of people" and "we tend not to throw people off buildings for being gay in this country". It was literally their first response to this article which mentions race or religion zero times.

Why mention it? Of course it's a possibility. But it's also a possibility it's someone who is Catholic. Or Buddhist. Or an Atheist. Why mention just that one possibility?

All we have to do is imagine Muslims will be willing to sit on the same bench as gay people for that chat and everything will be fine.

Well it is a very strong possibility to be fair. That it could have been a muslim I mean.

"Most people with critical thinking skills and a shred of emotional intelligence wouldn't be put off sitting on a bench because of... a rainbow."

is not the same as

" i am quite sure more people will sit there to "chat" than in its current activist state"

For a start I don't insult people with my post unlike you do and secondly, I state its my opinion where as you make out it is the accepted opinion


I prefer my approach, perhaps on reflection you will too..

When was the last time a catholic hanged a gay from a crane just for being gay?

Nobody is ignoring it, they are just saying in this case it's pointless to dwell. If you care about statistics, why are you ignoring the statistic that the place in which it took place is almost 99% white and almost 99% of the towns population are either Catholic or Atheist. Do those statistics matter.

You know, one of the reasons Pride is still so important, as many an LGBT person will tell you, is because as a community we recognise the issues faced globally, not just locally. Nobody is ignoring it.

I am all for dwelling on homophobic incidences in the UK that are religiously motivated, regardless of the religion. Absolutely. However, in this particularly instance, there is no proof it was a religiously motivated attack and so speculation will just breed needless hate.

I do get the fine balance between being a country that embraces multiculturalism while ensuring we promote key values of modern Britain, of which many values of Islam faith, for example, really collide with. We need to limit that bleeding into our culture for the safety of the British people, but that doesn't mean speculating and finger-pointing without evidence or need. That's racially motivated for no reason and undermines tackling such issues when it IS relevant.

Is this a story about someone being hanged from a crane or was it a story about a rainbow being painted over?

What a bizarre reply. I'm not having this conversation with you anymore, you're not even considering the context which surrounds this discussion.

Erm, you and your fellow LGBTQ rainbow worshippersare claiming this is an attack on LGBTQ, just cause a rainbow got painted over...No proof whatsoever as to why it was painted over...never miss a chance to make it all about them.

You're a critical thinker, you try and work out the connection.

"Rainbow bench that had nothing to do with Pride painted black by vandals"

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/new...inted-10316026

so the whole thread premise is wrong and is based on a false accusation

can the poster alter the title?

It is only a moron would think it wasn’t. A homophobic moron with zero critical thinking thought this was a pride bench.

Not surprising at all to see it being dismissed :joker:

just change your title. its wrong

If you’re saying it’s wrong I’m gonna go ahead and keep it how it is. We both know it’s not chap :thumbs:

Eh? It is wrong though. You made a big deal of saying its nothing to do with pride? Now you're insisting it was homophobic when it may or may not have been. Unless you can read minds now. You've destroyed your own argument.

No no. I said the bench has nothing to do with pride. It was vandalised by an idiot that thought it was. You see homophobes don’t have much upstairs in terms of intelligence.
It’s pretty easy to see why it was vandalised. That much is evident.

Obviously not for some

It's far more likely to have been someone who was homophobic than someone who just prefers to sit on a black bench...............imo

Oh I see, you know exactly what was in this morons mind then? Silly me. I'm not saying it's not highly likely, I do agree with it being very probable but not so daft as to announce it as fact like you have.

That’s the privilege of having critical thought :thumbs:

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I mean it’s pretty obvious

More like cynical thought.

It’s not cynical to state the obvious