You are clearly misinterpreting what I wrote. They are intolerant, yes. But I don't see this country as being intolerant, and I don't see Germany these days as being intolerant either.

We are multicultural, yes. And I see that as a good thing. But this is not a secular country. The UK is a Christian country, with the Head of State - that's the Queen - being the Defender of the Faith - that's the Church of England. For you not to know that shows just how far down the road we've gone in appeasing Islam. Indidentally, I'm not a Christian, and I support people following whichever faith they choose.

I don't aspire to "ban every bit of clothing we don't like". Did you read the bit where I said I don't have a problem with people wearing the hajib or any other form of religious garb they choose to wear. But the burkha is different and I agree with it being banned. If someone doesn't like that and they want to wear one, best they should reconsider their decision to live in a country where women are free to vote, to be educated, to receive medical treatment and to work in just about any field they choose.

closed- Gone offtopic and this topic has already been done to death anyway.

reopened - stay on topic please

EXCEPTIONALLY well said.

omg you can get burka swimsuits :amazed:

http://www.all4humor.com/images/file...20Swimsuit.jpg

-buys-

I hope that's not a piece of her arm I see! :nono:

Well he was doing brilliantly until about four and a half minutes in; until he went on an anti-women; anti-feminist rant that'scompletely out of place and out of context. But almost very, very good.

its covered :nono:

More :

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZjrrYYuebo...00/burkini.jpg

It better be! :nono:

:worship: <<< thats for allah not you :nono:

Do you honestly think I'd expect a man to bow to me? :nono:

:bawling:

omg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZjrrYYuebo...00/burkini.jpg

-orders the pink in a size 10-

I think their boy is peeing in the sea.

well he'll be sorry when allah hears about this

:laugh:

Yes that reply was just a general comment on the whole "we have to cover up in their countries" argument that is often used as opposed to a specific response to your post

This is a secular country in all but name. Sure by law, the Queen is head of the CoE and we're a Christian nation but very few in this country hold a firm belief in God and Christianity is on the decline while Islam is on the rise. I am indeed well aware of the Queen's status so no need to be so patronising there.

Why is the burkha "different"? You didnt really give a reason there, you just stated that it was. The burkha is surely just an extension of the hijab, they are both intended to protect the Muslim womans modesty.

If there is a British Muslim woman and she considers the burkha crucial to her relgious beliefs then I feel she has every right to wear one, and I'd hope that she would be allowed to in a country that preaches civil liberties and freedom of religion, instead of being forced away to a fundamentalist and repressive country like Saudi.

It annoys me how people always say "they shouldnt have come here in the first place" and "we respet their culture" or something along those lines when more often or not your average Muslim in this country is just as British as you or I.

Arista will be on your ass soon Scott :laugh:

:amazed:

-excited-

-lubes up with WD40-

:joker::joker:

Should have seen that coming

:laugh2:

It depends what you mean by "British" - for example, nationality does not confer heritage ..... ;)

Exactly. Just because I can fulfil the criteria to become a national of any other country, does not give me any attachment to it in terms of identity, culture, heritage, tradition or loyalty.