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cassieparis 20-07-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 5319241)
PC in the former-Yugoslavia is EXACTLY WHAT IS MOST OFTEN BLAMED FOR THE HATRED!

The Yugoslavia model (which really IS a huge influence on our PC culture) and was used as a 'model' as a 'success model' FAIL

...EXACTLY WHAT FUELED SPARKED AND INFLAMED MASSIVE RACIAL HATRED AND ETHNIC CLEANSING AND HORRORS.

If we went by your advise = some of the worst race-riots, racist 'backlash' and who knows.. maybe parts of London will look like Kosovo...
.....oh wait. Yes that is happening.

I found a lot of your post hard to follow but I do sense passion. Passion for an opposite point of view to that my own on Political Correctness.

I think we have perhaps an opposing understanding of the term. Which has more to do with acceptance and inclusion at best and tolerance at worst. IMO
You also made a lot of assumptions about my views in general. :conf:
Unchallenged bigotry leads to concentration camps and death. PC is a great challenge to such ignorant and foolish behaviour. I prefer it.

optimisticcynic 20-07-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewS (Post 5318948)
The only thing I find uncomfortable over the last few days is how politically correct big brother is trying to be.

We watch the show because its suppose to depict the personalities and interactions of a group of strangers. Over the course of the series, people will get into fights, have falling outs, and say stupid things. Sometimes those things might be rude and nasty. Life is rude and nasty sometimes, its the reality. That's why we watch, for the drama, for the arguments, for the random slag offs. If it was 12 friends sitting around the campfire every night roasting marshmallows and having a friendly chat, nobody would care. Scott made a bit on an ignorant comment. Breaking News, some people are ignorant, or say things without thinking them through sometimes. That's the beauty of BB, we get to see it.

I wish the housemates this year were as opinionated and sure of themselves as Marcus was, so they could tell BB to ****** off.

It is a reality TV show and not everyone will conform to socially accepted norms. This does reflect real life. However, when behaviour is unacceptable are you demanding that BB idly stand by as there are idiots in the outside world as well? There's also illicit substance misuse, domestic violence, hate crime, sexual assault and murder. Were these to be realistically reflected in the house, would that also be good reality TV and should BB alsv stay out of it? Noone is saying don't speak about the issue of bigotry. I'm pretty sure that us what BB is doing when the issue arises.
As for those claiming that political correctness is at the root of genocide, I am sure that prejudice is a key factor. However, attempts to address prejudice are often ignored by stubborn, pig-headed replies of "you're being too sensitive", "you're being too PC", and "you make it so people can't have a laugh anymore". When people have been enslaved, hunted and killed, dehumanised and have had to fight to gain the equality they deserve, they will be sensitive, and justifiably so. Who are you to decide that due to your vast life experience "all that doesn't matter now" and sweep it under the carpet?

rsefitpro2011 20-07-2012 10:56 AM

Big Brother are covering their backs, they dont want another Jade-Shilpa scenario, not that its going to be one of those situations!

They were right to bring Scott and Ashleigh into the diary room over their behaviours!, warning them was the right thing to do!. My only problem with BB is that Conor said worse than those two and he is still in the house?.

Kizzy 20-07-2012 11:06 AM

It had nothing to do with accents, it was simply commenting on how she ate, she lives in india and they do eat with their fingers...
BB were a little jumpy, maybe they sounded as if they were mocking, but thats it.

I'm with those who find conor and carolines systematic abuse much more offensive.

Niamh. 20-07-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5319764)
It had nothing to do with accents, it was simply commenting on how she ate, she lives in india and they do eat with their fingers...
BB were a little jumpy, maybe they sounded as if they were mocking, but thats it.

I'm with those who find conor and carolines systematic abuse much more offensive.

I think it's possible that we didn't see the full lot of what went on. It's one thing to comment on how a certain culture eats but it's quite another to act disgusted because of it.

JamesBond 20-07-2012 11:24 AM

I don't think anyone eats cereal with their fingers, just like I wouldn't expect Chinese people to eat cereal with chopsticks.

Niamh. 20-07-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 5319809)
I don't think anyone eats cereal with their fingers, just like I wouldn't expect Chinese people to eat cereal with chopsticks.

Yeah, didn't BB say during Ashleighs warning, that bullying includes making up lies about people?

Tym 20-07-2012 01:14 PM

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I think it's possible that we didn't see the full lot of what went on. It's one thing to comment on how a certain culture eats but it's quite another to act disgusted because of it.
I don't think he could've appeared more upper class snob than if he tried:P
I think it was the pure disdain more than anything. And the stereotyping, and the fact he didn't give a damn really annoyed me.

Me. I Am Salman 20-07-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 5319809)
I don't think anyone eats cereal with their fingers, just like I wouldn't expect Chinese people to eat cereal with chopsticks.

omg this :worship:

Kizzy 20-07-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5319813)
Yeah, didn't BB say during Ashleighs warning, that bullying includes making up lies about people?

So did she not eat cereal with her fingers then? it did seem a bit odd...
I have a thing about touching soggy food (cringe)

Livia 20-07-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tym (Post 5320079)
I don't think he could've appeared more upper class snob than if he tried:P
I think it was the pure disdain more than anything. And the stereotyping, and the fact he didn't give a damn really annoyed me.

And yet... Doesn't Scott come from a working class family and has cultivated his ridiculous accent (sadly for him without acquainting himself fully with the rules of grammar) to make himself seem more interesting? And he has the bloody cheek to ridicule someone else?


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