Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6250597)

I do respect yours, I respect that you are the first Sam supporter to at least answer my question, and I thank you for that.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit (Post 6250594)

Look, I like HM's because they are interesting, decent people and have led interesting lives and deal with challenges on a daily basis.

You like HM's because you find them playing 'its a knockout' type games amusing, despite them being total arseholes.

We're clearly operating on two different intellectual levels. If the show returned to the format that it was in BB1 I guess you would lose interest, where I would welcome it.

Just let it be, cos you are getting as tedious as the man in your avatar.

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6250230)

I haven't said a word about Sam's "health" as you put it.

If anything his supporters like Sam simply because of his life story as there isn't anything else to like about him.


I keep asking Sam fans why do they support him, what has he done that deserves the 100k and they NEVER ANSWER.

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6245455) I like Sam, more as the show progresses. His one liners are funny and he seems the kind of person who doesn't rise easily to anger, but will absolutely stand their ground if pushed. He also stands by his friends. True loyalty is an admirable quality. To keep hold of that in such an environment is a good thing. But mostly I like him because each time I've seen him come out of himself he's shown himself to be thoughtful, funny, and creative.

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6245146)

I keep asking Sam supporters this and they either never answer the question or give sarcy answers.

I would love to hear genuine reason as to why he should win.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6250643)

Evidence of people hating Sam due to his condition???

People who hate Sam aren't like the majority of Anti Dexter peeps who make fun of his size or appearance regularly. We just find Sam dull as ****.

Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 6249968)

I don't agree Indy, I feel hatred for no one, its immature and childish to 'hate' on a big brother contestant, its a television gameshow, why would you hate someone you've never met. I can see why you would make this post though because there are a lot of people whose posts scream of hatred and the way some carry on you'd think they murdered someone. Hate is a terrible emotion to have. I would rather use the word dislike and I dislike Sam because I find him cocky and boring and nothing to do with his hearing at all. Anyone who would be nasty over his hearing difficulties should be ashamed of themselves. Most of the reasons for people not liking Sam is because he's been proper boring

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6250985)

The broken quotes in this thread are giving me forum OCD but my net is too slow today to sort them all out :bored:

The only time I personally have seen posts about sams hearing is when people say things like 'he will win because he is deaf'. I dont think this is too unfair an assumption to make..Nadia, Pete, Luke A..all won for being 'different'. Yeah some may argue that they would have won anyway, but it does seem like if you have some kind of disability you are more likely to do well and have your bad behaviors 'excused'. Steve from bb11 was opening night fave IIRC. Why? Well I cant think of anything that set him aside from the rest besides his disability.

Posts taking the piss out of Sam for being deaf are against the rules, report them. I see james has already commented in here about that. But posts saying that he gets preferential treatment (for want of better words)from voters..I dont think theres a problem with those, as it does seem that way :shrug:

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit (Post 6251656)

I will make more of an effort to report them in future. As i've said i've no problem with people who give genuine reasons for not liking him. It also annoys me when people say it is a sympathy vote, whilst not against the rules its patronising.

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6250791)

Sorry but that just isn't true. You simply choose not accept their answers. I know this because in the thread asking people why they like Sam I gave my answers.

I said:



I then later said:



I gave those answers because of this post by you:



You seemed to genuinely want to hear why people liked/supported Sam.

Now. You can disagree with that all you like, it doesn't change the fact that reasons were offered for liking Sam. To suggest that you keep on asking but people NEVER answer is an untruth. You may not like the answers, but that's really not the point is it?


One final point: Cynical Hermit offered, amongst several reasons, the fact that he was impressed with the way Sam had handled certain things within the house. Saying you impressed with how someone deals with some of the difficulties associated with a disability is not the same as saying you support them because of their disability, or that you support them out of sympathy for their disability. But: that gets picked up and twisted into 'sympathy vote Sam' and the rest of the reasoning gets ignored.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit (Post 6250833)

Videostar, you have officially been Dana'd

:dance::lovedup:

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6251697)

Dana, im sorry if I missed your answers, im constantly flitting between threads, or maybe I went offline, I assure you I didn't mean to ignore your replies.

But I stand by my opinions that Sam isn't being judged on the same playing field as so called abled bodied HM's..and someone on here on their sig says they want Sam to win because they "respect" him...that IMO is clearly because of his disability, again, I say that's an invalid reason to want someone to win and walk off with a life changing 100k.

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6251702)

Im now very sheepish. :blush2:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6251706)

Don't worry videostar its alright, now come over to the light and join the Sam side. :devil:

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit (Post 6251703)

For about the hundredth time, respect for how he is doing it. Just because you disagree with it, it does not make it 'invalid'. I've given reasons over and over and over. You choose to ignore them or call them invalid. They're my reasons, they have nothing to do with sympathy, they are the reasons people up and down the country will vote for him, and they are the reasons he will win.

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6251737)

Im not that sheepish. :joker:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6251743)

:joker:

Worth a try. :spin:

Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6251742)

I respect that that is your reasons, I just disagree with them.

I just wish entertainment came into this a little bit more.

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6249925)

i dont hate him at all , but without doubt he and sophie are two of the most boring housemates to ever appear on big brother and have no right at all to win or make the final.
i cannot stand sympathy votes i said it launch night he will win , i said the same with luke a and the torrents guy though he was fun so a good winner. but sam has done nothing

what i do hate is bandwagon jumpers and the sympathy vote i think its insulting really
people should be judged on their actions and personality not anything else.

all this liking someone cause their fav likes them or liking them cause he is brave cause he is half deaf etc. that really annoys me. and its wrong
as i said before the real brave people are the ones doing the 9-5 with disabilities not the ones chasing fame and fortune on television shows. all in the name of a good cause.
big brother is a reality entertainment show not a charity