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the truth 26-02-2014 12:45 AM

they should bring in a female manager and this should be enshrined in law at 50% of prem clubs

Cherie 26-02-2014 07:16 AM

Sralex will have to come back after this fine mess he has got us in to. The only reason he suggested Moyes was to make himself look even better.

Jesus. 26-02-2014 08:24 AM

I think it's important that we all honour the great knight of the realm, by respecting his last wish.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...68_634x482.jpg

Cherie 26-02-2014 08:27 AM

:worry:

Legend killer 26-02-2014 11:44 AM

Whether people want to accept it or not this has been 5-6 years in the making

Replacing Ronnie with Tony loooool
Replacing WINGER Giggs with Ashley looooooooool
Not replacing Scholes and to a lesser extent Hargreaves
Letting Pogba go whilst keeping the likes of Tom here

Carrick is playing like a 50 year old out there through no fault of his own carrying a midfield with ****ing Giggs and Cleverly beside you for 2-3 years will do that to anyone

If your not willing to put any blame onto Fergie's door your just showing the fan you are. And in simple terms your not the fans real United fans like myself want at the club so **** off and support City

Jesus. 26-02-2014 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 6732818)
Whether people want to accept it or not this has been 5-6 years in the making

Replacing Ronnie with Tony loooool
Replacing WINGER Giggs with Ashley looooooooool
Not replacing Scholes and to a lesser extent Hargreaves
Letting Pogba go whilst keeping the likes of Tom here

Carrick is playing like a 50 year old out there through no fault of his own carrying a midfield with ****ing Giggs and Cleverly beside you for 2-3 years will do that to anyone

If your not willing to put any blame onto Fergie's door your just showing the fan you are. And in simple terms your not the fans real United fans like myself want at the club so **** off and support City

I completely agree. This is all fergie's mess, and Moyes is just trying to undo all the damage he did as manager there.

Come on David Moyes
Play like fergies boys
and go wild, wild, wild
we'll go wild, wild, wild.

In Moyes we trust.

Legend killer 26-02-2014 11:57 AM

Don't get me wrong Moyes deserves heat too for no apparent reason he has started to bring the deadwood back in ala Tony Young Tom after initially dropping them

But he has shown huge promise

Identified our midfield sucks ass which Fergie could not be bothered to do anything about

Brought in genuine WC player in Mata and plans to bring in more

Promoted Adnan and has tried his best to get rid of that waste of space Patrice

Deserves another year SIMPLE AS

Jesus. 26-02-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 6732829)
Don't get me wrong Moyes deserves heat too for no apparent reason he has started to bring the deadwood back in ala Tony Young Tom after initially dropping them

But he has shown huge promise

Identified our midfield sucks ass which Fergie could not be bothered to do anything about

Brought in genuine WC player in Mata and plans to bring in more

Promoted Adnan and has tried his best to get rid of that waste of space Patrice

Deserves another year SIMPLE AS

You're preaching to the converted. Moyes needs to see out his complete 6 year contract as far as I'm concerned. I'm fed up of you having a s**t manager and winning everything. Glad to finally get to see how a top class manager handles the club.

Brother Leon 26-02-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6732646)
they should bring in a female manager and this should be enshrined in law at 50% of prem clubs

Take your agenda back into Serious Debates or some ****.

Jesus. 26-02-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6732863)
Take your agenda back into Serious Debates or some ****.

Bloody hell mate, don't send him there. The fashion section is where he needs to take his agenda.

Ryan57 26-02-2014 01:01 PM

Identified our midfield sucks and brings in Fellaini.

Brings in a world class player in Mata to shove him out on the wing.

What a manager!

Also, Fergie set up the deal for Thiago Alcantara and Moyes deemed him not capable of doing it in the Premier League. Once again, what a manager! Deemed Ander Herrera to not be worth £30 million, yet Fellaini is worth £2 million less. PMSL.

Takes a team that was champions last year, although does have weaknesses, from 1st to 7th for most of the season. Not a chance of making the Top 4. I'm sure the likes of Pep and Jose would of had us playing diabolical football and scrapping for a Europa League spot.

Doesn't deserve another day, let alone a year.

GiRTh 26-02-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend killer (Post 6732818)
Whether people want to accept it or not this has been 5-6 years in the making

Replacing Ronnie with Tony loooool
Replacing WINGER Giggs with Ashley looooooooool
Not replacing Scholes and to a lesser extent Hargreaves
Letting Pogba go whilst keeping the likes of Tom here

Carrick is playing like a 50 year old out there through no fault of his own carrying a midfield with ****ing Giggs and Cleverly beside you for 2-3 years will do that to anyone

If your not willing to put any blame onto Fergie's door your just showing the fan you are. And in simple terms your not the fans real United fans like myself want at the club so **** off and support City

Some of this is Fergies fault but you have to admire the way he won trophies with a mediocre team,. I think Fergie planned to retire a few years ago and thus why he let the squad - particularly the midfield - turn to sh*t. He seemed to know that if United had great strikers then they had a chance in most domestic competitions.

However Moyes deserves far more criticism that you're giving him. His comment after last night games again reinforced his loser/small club attitude when he said that they had a good home records so the result wasnt unexpected. If he's giving the Greek Champions that level of respect then how the hell does he think he's gonna beat Real Madrid, Barca, PSG, Bayern etc.

He also may have identified weaknesses in the squad but I dread to think who he's gonna bring in to replace them. The Mata signing is no0thing to shout about cuz Mata wasnt a Chelsea regular so you basically bought a player who wasnt wanted by one of your biggest rivals. I'd be asking why doesnt Jose like him rather than praising Moyes for bringing in Mata's world class talent.

Even thoguh I'm an Arsenal fan I actually like Man UTd. They've been great ambassadors for English football and they are the only team for over a decade that have consistently been high achievers in Europe. Liverpool, Chelsea and us dont have such a pedigree but I think SAF was clearly winding down over the past few years but Moyes has taken the decline to a whole new level. I think the board need to act soon before he does more damage to the club and as I've said a few times, I take no satisfaction in that I called it in September. By now I was expecting there to have been some improvement but if any thing Man Utd have got worse' You're even more beatable now than you were back then. This is not looking good for your club. Sorry

Ryan57 26-02-2014 01:07 PM

Fergie shoulders huge blame, also. Whatever way anybody looks at it. Even the arse lickers are coming around to the idea that Moyes isn't the man.

I fully appreciate all Fergie did, but he has made this mess. Along with Charlton.

Whether you deem the team to not be good enough, they were Fergie's players. Or whether you deem Moyes to not be the right man, Fergie chose him.

It's about time The Glazers grew a pair and went above Fergie.

Ryan57 26-02-2014 01:15 PM

At last, the media are criticising him.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhWnJPYCIAEwzdU.jpg:large

GiRTh 26-02-2014 01:17 PM

About time the press started wading in.

Brother Leon 26-02-2014 01:20 PM

The most blame Sir Alex should take is choosing Moyes in the first place. Bar RVP the majority of his last few signings in DDG,Smalling,Jones and Zaha were all for the future and the next manager. Yes he ignored the midfield, but he was still winning without one and the New manager could easy of bought a new midfielder or two they liked themselves and set off from there. You think Jose or anyone else doesn't seal the Garay,Thiago or Herrera deal and then contend with this very same squad?

Of those signings for the future, DDG has proved to be one of the best in the world,but Moyes has shipped out Zaha and is hell bent on dashing any confidence Smalling and Jones have by playing them as Right Back due to selling Fabio for peanuts. Should Fergie of signed a midfielder anyway...well yeah of course, because our new manager proved to be an idiot in the market and splashed the cash on Fellaini of all people. Moyes simply underestimated how much motivation these players needed. He probably came in thinking they will keep on winning when in reality the best thing Sir Alex was good at was constantly motivating them and setting new goals for them no matter how much they may of won.

Anyway, there is no point complaining really...there is no chance he goes before around Christmas.

EDIT: About time the Media woke up. AVB was hounded out,while doing more with less.

Jesus. 26-02-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6732934)
The most blame Sir Alex should take is choosing Moyes in the first place. Bar RVP the majority of his last few signings in DDG,Smalling,Jones and Zaha were all for the future and the next manager. Yes he ignored the midfield, but he was still winning without one and the New manager could easy of bought a new midfielder or two they liked themselves and set off from there. You think Jose or anyone else doesn't seal the Thiago or Herrera deal and then contend with this very same squad?

Of those signings for the future, DDG has proved to be one of the best in the world,but Moyes has shipped out Zaha and is hell bent on dashing any confidence Smalling and Jones have by playing them as Right Back due to selling Fabio for peanuts. Should Fergie of signed a midfielder anyway...well yeah of course, because our new manager proved to be an idiot in the market and splashed the cash on Fellaini of all people. Moyes simply underestimated how much motivation these players needed. He probably came in thinking they will keep on winning when in reality the best thing Sir Alex was good at was constantly motivating them and setting new goals for them no matter how much they may of won.

Anyway, there is no point complaining really...there is no chance he goes before around Christmas.

EDIT: About time the Media woke up. AVB was hounded out,while doing more with less.

That's a really good post, and pretty much 100% spot on.

Ryan57 26-02-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6732934)
The most blame Sir Alex should take is choosing Moyes in the first place. Bar RVP the majority of his last few signings in DDG,Smalling,Jones and Zaha were all for the future and the next manager. Yes he ignored the midfield, but he was still winning without one and the New manager could easy of bought a new midfielder or two they liked themselves and set off from there. You think Jose or anyone else doesn't seal the Garay,Thiago or Herrera deal and then contend with this very same squad?

Of those signings for the future, DDG has proved to be one of the best in the world,but Moyes has shipped out Zaha and is hell bent on dashing any confidence Smalling and Jones have by playing them as Right Back due to selling Fabio for peanuts. Should Fergie of signed a midfielder anyway...well yeah of course, because our new manager proved to be an idiot in the market and splashed the cash on Fellaini of all people. Moyes simply underestimated how much motivation these players needed. He probably came in thinking they will keep on winning when in reality the best thing Sir Alex was good at was constantly motivating them and setting new goals for them no matter how much they may of won.

Anyway, there is no point complaining really...there is no chance he goes before around Christmas.

EDIT: About time the Media woke up. AVB was hounded out,while doing more with less.

With a proper manager in the summer we'd of fixed midfield at last. Fergie even set up a deal for a top midfielder, yet Moyes deemed one of the best young midfielders on the planet to not be good enough for the Premier League...

Edit: Oh yes, Garay as well deemed not good enough by Moyes. Absolutely laughable.

Brother Leon 26-02-2014 01:31 PM

There was the Garay deal with Benfica all but done according to the player himself too. There were two strong signings in positions of need and they were both ****ed up :laugh:

Ryan57 26-02-2014 01:32 PM

Moyes also replaced a backroom squad with a bunch of nobodies.

Absolutely embarrassing coaching team.

MTVN 26-02-2014 02:23 PM

Moyes leading the sack race with bookies now, even ahead of Pepe Mel, hmm

Brother Leon 26-02-2014 02:34 PM

Pepe Mel?

Didn't he just join them and get good results against Liverpool and Chelsea? Poor guy lol

Ryan57 26-02-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6732965)
Moyes leading the sack race with bookies now, even ahead of Pepe Mel, hmm

Please let it happen.

MTVN 26-02-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6732978)
Pepe Mel?

Didn't he just join them and get good results against Liverpool and Chelsea? Poor guy lol

Yeah loads of places were reporting he's fighting for his future now and not far from being sacked, though SSN are saying now that his jobs not under threat

He hasn't done particularly badly or anything just not won a game yet, the guy is a draw specialist

Ryan57 26-02-2014 02:45 PM

Raymond Goh
‏@raymondjian97
How dumb I am..stupid moyes spoil all..I will sack u soon..give us good management or not u will deserve it..2+1=3..for me 2+1=1000000..wtf


That's one way of putting it.


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