Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8409916)

Like most bigots, he was just using religion as an excuse to justify his bigotry.

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8409918)

I'm not a bigot yet believe in God.
Not everybody is filled with hatred.

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8409905)

Most walked out before he finished. I think I would have stayed until the end & then challenged him.

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8409918)

I'm not a bigot yet believe in God.
Not everybody is filled with hatred.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8409916)

Like most bigots, he was just using religion as an excuse to justify his bigotry.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8409919)

You misread what I said, I was not saying that all religious people are bigots, just that bigots like Winston use religion as an excuse for their actions.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8409919)

You misread what I said, I was not saying that all religious people are bigots, just that bigots like Winston use religion as an excuse for their actions.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8409920)

I think it was his attitude though. He was giving a speech all about me me me - not explaining his views at all and trying to defuse the situation but reinforcing those views. Then he said if anyone had questions to put up their hands and he would give them 15 minutes of question time. I mean, who does he think he is, their headmaster? He was being so arrogant and patronizing. I know I would have walked out with them.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8409911)

My position is clear;

A Christian is someone who believes that Jesus was The Christ.

If Jesus never even mentioned homosexuality, then how can anyone who purports to believe in Christ's words as those of God, EVER preach that their Christian God condemned 'Gays', 'Gay Sex' 'Gay Marriage' or anything else 'Gay' when it SIMPLY is not true?

What follows from the above, is that if Winston is GENUINELY using his 'Christianity' as a reason for his inane homophobic remarks, then he is MISGUIDED, and whoever preached their homophobic views to him in the Church which Winston attended, is also misguided or is deliberately misrepresenting the word of the Christian God.

The above being so, when Winston says; "I am a Christian" as some form of mitigation or even justification for his ludicrous views, it is MEANINGLESS.

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8409927)

He had the opportunity to try to say what his justification was & blew it.
I just felt that Daniella laughing at him brought it down to his level.

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8409899)

The bible promotes the sancity of marriage between a man and a woman. Im guessing that anything outside that alliance isn't regarded as correct, hence the twisted views of many clergy and church ministers. On side will argue its wrong, the other will argue its not that clear so because its not that clear, it cant be right and even though its not that wrong, it suits our agenda so away we go, Bull****, Religion is the cause of nearly all wars and killings so why let a good point get in the way of an argument.

Love is all that matters and a bit f paper or a church indoctrination is totally irrelevant. What I don't understand is why so many gays discount the church as archaic, yet fight for the right to be married in one. Religion is not the law and too many people let religion rule their lives. Bloody daft if you ask me as some people use religion as a way to explain away their own inadequacies and others discount it as BS.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8409667)

Hi, the 31% you keep refferring to was taken by a 2013 poll. Can you think of any historically significant things that has happened with the community since then? ****ing loads. You should research this instead.
Find a 2015 poll if you want to throw around numbers because yes obviously a 2013 poll is already out of date.

Your 2013 poll states that 55% of people believe that homsexuals should be able to get married, this has rose to 71% in the two years. It is very safe to presume that gay adoption views have also taken a dramatic rise too. Judging by those numbers, do you believe Winstons (and your own) views have a place in modern Britain. They do not, you are both among the last to move with the times.

I doubt you want to educate yourself, but just in case, these are the current views of europe. http://www.equineteurope.org/IMG/pdf/ebs_437_en.pdf

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409776)

The forum has been awash with ignorant homophobic posts. Multiple threads closed. Posts removed.

Pretend none of that happened if you like.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8409941)

Pssst......I didn't throw the numbers around. The first time I saw that survey was when one of Winston's detractors on here posted it in order to show that 53% were for gay adoption.

But as you are rejecting the survey then we can reject the 53% and go back to the drawing board.

What people don't seem to have worked out is that Winston got more votes than nancy to stay. This witch hunt is confined to some leftists and media luvvies. The rest of us like Winston and realise his views aren't extreme in the slightest.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8409916)

Like most bigots, he was just using religion as an excuse to justify his bigotry.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8409944)

So anyone who doesn't completely agree with your views on gays is homophobic.:laugh:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409946)

We don't know that for sure.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8409947)

Like all muslims you mean?

:shocked:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409948)

:facepalm:

Where have I said that?

Try reading posts properly before replying.

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409950)

You've been watching too much Fox News. :joker:

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8409949)

Of course we do. Hence the panicked and totally fraudulent "twist" where all the housemates who despised him were suddenly allowed to vote.
Absolutely he was more entertaining. I personally think he is worth ten of nancy. Look at all the stuff he has done on his life. He is famous for the right reasons rather than shagging SYE.
Well he certainly got votes in spite of his views. As I have stated before, you really are out of touch with the real views in Britain. The average man on the street is not a gay rights campaigner and protesting for immigrants to be let in.

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409955)

No actually we don't.

So you think he's entertaining. Great. I'm pleased for you.

The only one out of touch here is you and as the years pass you will become even more out of touch.

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8409955)

No actually we don't.

So you think he's entertaining. Great. I'm pleased for you.

The only one out of touch here is you and as the years pass you will become even more out of touch.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8409966)

Like i said yesterday, not if the influx of immigrants continues, more than likely it will go the other way.

Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8409969)

Half a million signed a petition to stop any more immigrants coming in.

These leftists really do think that the entire country are behind them and they couldn't be more wrong. Go to any average pub in this country and ask the blokes what they think of gays adopting and Syrian immigrants and the answers won't be to the leftists liking.