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Old 09-01-2016, 06:41 AM #1
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Maybe I am alone. But like Jeremy I take offence at ACTIONS. Not words.

Words mean nothing really. So Winston doesn't agree gays should adopt kids. That's his view. Meh. Okay. Over and done with.

But the housemates' reaction was bizarre. MASS offence was taken. It was like 'you insulted me even though I am not gay!'

They ganged up on Winston with such venom and hate, sorry I had to laugh. Winston on the other hand conducted himself well.

And may I say HIS was the only CBB/BB eviction interview I have watched from start to finish. And Emma's attitude, just like the housemates, just like the crowd, was as ONE. Venom. You could hear it in her questioning.

What's HER problem? She doesn't agree with Winston, END OF. Move on. Ever heard of free speech, love. It's a free country, if you've forgotten. This isn't Saudi or China.

Why do these people feel the need to try and convince Winston is wrong. He can't be moved, no point.

And let's face it. BB threw Winston to the lions. He wasn't just sitting there and suddenly said 'I think gays are child abusers'. It was BB that brought it up. Something he said, when? Two years ago. In an interview, is then dragged up. And the housemates were like the kids fable, Emperor's New Clothes, they all agreed to hate Winston. And it was Jeremy, the 'boy' who stood up and say no.

And as for Angie, her reaction was way over the top. It looked like she was ready to commit murder. I have to say she is without question several sandwiches short of a picnic.

The hate she showed, she disgusted me more than anyone. Anything Winston SAID. Because it's what she displayed. Hate. Not what she said. Words mean nothing.
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Jesus christ. Take offence at both actions and words.
It is possible to insult a straight person to be insulted by homophobic views obviously.
It was not ganging up, it was popular opinion

I cba to read through your other points actually, the first three was ridiculously stupid
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Jesus christ. Take offence at both actions and words.
It is possible to insult a straight person to be insulted by homophobic views obviously.
It was not ganging up, it was popular opinion

I cba to read through your other points actually, the first three was ridiculously stupid
Well I could say I am 'offended' that you blastpheme to get your point across !!!! what should I do ? show anger or ignore it ? how silly is all this faux outrage ,I believe some people are protesting far too much.
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Agree with everything you say Gusto, Emma lost any semblance of professionalism last night and I think she needs to step back and not let her personal feelings cloud her judgement. What happened to its all panto? I fully believe Nancy received the fewest votes so they introduced the most ludicrous twist which was only necessary to manipulate who was evicted. No idea why anyone wastes money voting
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And yet Jim Davidson won a few years ago and he's everything from racist , sexist and homophobic but yet people liked him even though he's a disgusting pig
He made Brian Dowling cry on hells kitchen and he constantly offends everyone
I can't stand the ukip guy he's nasty but why do the public do selective support for vile idiots
Another example Katie Hopkins and she's a massive cold heartless bitch
That's why I hate big brother and reality shows in general
I can't be bothered with car crash telly but I had to comment on the retarded double standards
How can people love Jim Davidson & Katie Hopkins but hate ukip guy when all 3 are as vile as eachother
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Words mean nothing.
Apart from the countless times throughout the years when mere words have had terrible effects on the people they've been aimed at. But I suppose that's their own fault for not having a thick enough skin and nothing to do with the person actually being wildly offensive, right?

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Well I could say I am 'offended' that you blastpheme to get your point across !!!! what should I do ? show anger or ignore it ? how silly is all this faux outrage ,I believe some people are protesting far too much.
I'm sorry but people really need to stop pulling out this "faux outrage" card every single time a debate like this comes up, it's so cliched now. Nobody ever seems to be able to back up how they now the anger isn't genuine.

Not just that but it's actually insulting itself. Why is it hard to believe that gay people and certain others who respect gay people / have gay loved ones could be genuinely offended by things like comparing having same sex parents to child abuse and jokes about gay men being predators?

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Well I could say I am 'offended' that you blastpheme to get your point across !!!! what should I do ? show anger or ignore it ? how silly is all this faux outrage ,I believe some people are protesting far too much.
There is no faux outrage. People dislike homophobia. There isnt much to be confused about and im shocked that you are.
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There is no faux outrage. People dislike homophobia. There isnt much to be confused about and im shocked that you are.
I'm glad you are speaking for everyone.

In a survey posted on here tonight, 31% of the british people were against gay adoption.
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I'm glad you are speaking for everyone.

In a survey posted on here tonight, 31% of the british people were against gay adoption.
That's less than I thought. People are becoming more open minded and educated. Good to see!
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I'm glad you are speaking for everyone.

In a survey posted on here tonight, 31% of the british people were against gay adoption.
Hi, the 31% you keep refferring to was taken by a 2013 poll. Can you think of any historically significant things that has happened with the community since then? ****ing loads. You should research this instead.
Find a 2015 poll if you want to throw around numbers because yes obviously a 2013 poll is already out of date.

Your 2013 poll states that 55% of people believe that homsexuals should be able to get married, this has rose to 71% in the two years. It is very safe to presume that gay adoption views have also taken a dramatic rise too. Judging by those numbers, do you believe Winstons (and your own) views have a place in modern Britain. They do not, you are both among the last to move with the times.

I doubt you want to educate yourself, but just in case, these are the current views of europe. http://www.equineteurope.org/IMG/pdf/ebs_437_en.pdf
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There is no faux outrage. People dislike homophobia. There isnt much to be confused about and im shocked that you are.
I get people are outraged, but some of it is over the top (imo)and I know some people don't like homophobia,there are a lot of things in this world I don't like ,but sadly we have to live with some of it,only education and upbringing can change how society is,you must remember the older generation was brought up totally different to now,and they are just as entitalled to their opinions as we are,I am not confused Withano,just taking both sides on board.
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I get people are outraged, but some of it is over the top (imo)and I know some people don't like homophobia,there are a lot of things in this world I don't like ,but sadly we have to live with some of it,only education and upbringing can change how society is,you must remember the older generation was brought up totally different to now,and they are just as entitalled to their opinions as we are,I am not confused Withano,just taking both sides on board.
Who is stopping people having an opinion?

Challenging an opinion isn't stopping it btw.
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Maybe I am alone. But like Jeremy I take offence at ACTIONS. Not words.

Words mean nothing really. So Winston doesn't agree gays should adopt kids. That's his view. Meh. Okay. Over and done with.

But the housemates' reaction was bizarre. MASS offence was taken. It was like 'you insulted me even though I am not gay!'

They ganged up on Winston with such venom and hate, sorry I had to laugh. Winston on the other hand conducted himself well.

And may I say HIS was the only CBB/BB eviction interview I have watched from start to finish. And Emma's attitude, just like the housemates, just like the crowd, was as ONE. Venom. You could hear it in her questioning.

What's HER problem? She doesn't agree with Winston, END OF. Move on. Ever heard of free speech, love. It's a free country, if you've forgotten. This isn't Saudi or China.

Why do these people feel the need to try and convince Winston is wrong. He can't be moved, no point.

And let's face it. BB threw Winston to the lions. He wasn't just sitting there and suddenly said 'I think gays are child abusers'. It was BB that brought it up. Something he said, when? Two years ago. In an interview, is then dragged up. And the housemates were like the kids fable, Emperor's New Clothes, they all agreed to hate Winston. And it was Jeremy, the 'boy' who stood up and say no.

And as for Angie, her reaction was way over the top. It looked like she was ready to commit murder. I have to say she is without question several sandwiches short of a picnic.

The hate she showed, she disgusted me more than anyone. Anything Winston SAID. Because it's what she displayed. Hate. Not what she said. Words mean nothing.
Yes it's like one section of society is telling the other what they can say and do ,which in itself is discriminating.
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Yes it's like one section of society is telling the other what they can say and do ,which in itself is discriminating.


Nobodies telling anyone what to say or do.

Winston made an extreme statement, that gay adoption is akin to child abuse. He was asked to explain that view. He couldn't because it's not true.

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Yes it's like one section of society is telling the other what they can say and do ,which in itself is discriminating.
Exactly.
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Completely agree Gusto, nothing stupid whatsoever in your points.
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Maybe I am alone. But like Jeremy I take offence at ACTIONS. Not words.

Words mean nothing really. So Winston doesn't agree gays should adopt kids. That's his view. Meh. Okay. Over and done with.

But the housemates' reaction was bizarre. MASS offence was taken. It was like 'you insulted me even though I am not gay!'

They ganged up on Winston with such venom and hate, sorry I had to laugh. Winston on the other hand conducted himself well.

And may I say HIS was the only CBB/BB eviction interview I have watched from start to finish. And Emma's attitude, just like the housemates, just like the crowd, was as ONE. Venom. You could hear it in her questioning.

What's HER problem? She doesn't agree with Winston, END OF. Move on. Ever heard of free speech, love. It's a free country, if you've forgotten. This isn't Saudi or China.

Why do these people feel the need to try and convince Winston is wrong. He can't be moved, no point.

And let's face it. BB threw Winston to the lions. He wasn't just sitting there and suddenly said 'I think gays are child abusers'. It was BB that brought it up. Something he said, when? Two years ago. In an interview, is then dragged up. And the housemates were like the kids fable, Emperor's New Clothes, they all agreed to hate Winston. And it was Jeremy, the 'boy' who stood up and say no.

And as for Angie, her reaction was way over the top. It looked like she was ready to commit murder. I have to say she is without question several sandwiches short of a picnic.

The hate she showed, she disgusted me more than anyone. Anything Winston SAID. Because it's what she displayed. Hate. Not what she said. Words mean nothing.

and she never even gave the reason what she said - this is included in my poem I am about to post.
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totally agree

there is nothing worse than a person who feels totally self justified in being hateful and vile as they were last night

it was truly repulsive to watch
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Maybe I am alone. But like Jeremy I take offence at ACTIONS. Not words.

Words mean nothing really. So Winston doesn't agree gays should adopt kids. That's his view. Meh. Okay. Over and done with.

But the housemates' reaction was bizarre. MASS offence was taken. It was like 'you insulted me even though I am not gay!'

They ganged up on Winston with such venom and hate, sorry I had to laugh. Winston on the other hand conducted himself well.

And may I say HIS was the only CBB/BB eviction interview I have watched from start to finish. And Emma's attitude, just like the housemates, just like the crowd, was as ONE. Venom. You could hear it in her questioning.

What's HER problem? She doesn't agree with Winston, END OF. Move on. Ever heard of free speech, love. It's a free country, if you've forgotten. This isn't Saudi or China.

Why do these people feel the need to try and convince Winston is wrong. He can't be moved, no point.

And let's face it. BB threw Winston to the lions. He wasn't just sitting there and suddenly said 'I think gays are child abusers'. It was BB that brought it up. Something he said, when? Two years ago. In an interview, is then dragged up. And the housemates were like the kids fable, Emperor's New Clothes, they all agreed to hate Winston. And it was Jeremy, the 'boy' who stood up and say no.

And as for Angie, her reaction was way over the top. It looked like she was ready to commit murder. I have to say she is without question several sandwiches short of a picnic.

The hate she showed, she disgusted me more than anyone. Anything Winston SAID. Because it's what she displayed. Hate. Not what she said. Words mean nothing.
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Maybe I am alone. But like Jeremy I take offence at ACTIONS. Not words.

Words mean nothing really. So Winston doesn't agree gays should adopt kids. That's his view. Meh. Okay. Over and done with.

But the housemates' reaction was bizarre. MASS offence was taken. It was like 'you insulted me even though I am not gay!'

They ganged up on Winston with such venom and hate, sorry I had to laugh. Winston on the other hand conducted himself well.

And may I say HIS was the only CBB/BB eviction interview I have watched from start to finish. And Emma's attitude, just like the housemates, just like the crowd, was as ONE. Venom. You could hear it in her questioning.

What's HER problem? She doesn't agree with Winston, END OF. Move on. Ever heard of free speech, love. It's a free country, if you've forgotten. This isn't Saudi or China.

Why do these people feel the need to try and convince Winston is wrong. He can't be moved, no point.

And let's face it. BB threw Winston to the lions. He wasn't just sitting there and suddenly said 'I think gays are child abusers'. It was BB that brought it up. Something he said, when? Two years ago. In an interview, is then dragged up. And the housemates were like the kids fable, Emperor's New Clothes, they all agreed to hate Winston. And it was Jeremy, the 'boy' who stood up and say no.

And as for Angie, her reaction was way over the top. It looked like she was ready to commit murder. I have to say she is without question several sandwiches short of a picnic.

The hate she showed, she disgusted me more than anyone. Anything Winston SAID. Because it's what she displayed. Hate. Not what she said. Words mean nothing.
Ive been saying exactly the same thing. With all the bad things people in the house have done, they certainly threw the worst at Winston and he was crucified. Not being happy with that, Emma tried to use his circumstance to big herself up and used the interview to do it. After that Rylan wasn't as bad but he certainly didn't try to stop the audience and panel from ripping him one and as a gay man, he loved it. It was very awkward to watch and showed why CBB is failing.
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Ive been saying exactly the same thing. With all the bad things people in the house have done, they certainly threw the worst at Winston and he was crucified. Not being happy with that, Emma tried to use his circumstance to big herself up and used the interview to do it. After that Rylan wasn't as bad but he certainly didn't try to stop the audience and panel from ripping him one and as a gay man, he loved it. It was very awkward to watch and showed why CBB is failing.
Did you see Rylan dancing ? shoving his arse close to Winston and being over the top camp ? I spotted it and knew his game
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He made his bed, he's got no one else but himself to blame. The reaching people are doing to defend him is hilarious though.
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He made his bed, he's got no one else but himself to blame. The reaching people are doing to defend him is hilarious though.
bb aired his views maybe they are to blame.
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So he's not responsible for his own actions now? Again with the reaching.
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So he's not responsible for his own actions now? Again with the reaching.
You've got to ask yourself why do bb keep putting in nasty twats
So they are to blame aswell
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