Frustration and a feeling of powerlessness, usually. Most common reason is that it's a learned behaviour from an angry parent.

Gaming? No. The kids who are lobbing the controller because they've lost a round of CoD are the same kids who started kicking sh*t around the gym hall at school when they were out first in Dodgeball, or picked last for football. The activity that they're getting angry about it irrelevant: if someone is displaying disproportionate anger during ANY activity then they have an emotional issue and poor impulse control, problems that will eventually affect them in every area of life. Probably better to catch Little Jimmy's anger problem when he's playing Xbox with his brother to be honest - otherwise you're going to find out about it when his first girlfriend dumps him and he throws a temper tantrum about that with m children more real consequences.

On a separate, but not unrelated note I regularly become extremely frustrated with computers, laptops and phones that are slow beyond belief. Even if it's only lagging a couple of seconds.

Did the computer create my impatience? Did it heck.

As a sumsung tv repair man i also come into contact with frantic mothers explaining how the tv fell over leaving an impact from blunt object smash on the tv in the kids room.

It can and is being denied and claiming that you don't need a source would make you look almost unfathomably stupid... IF it wasn't so obvious that you're just fishing for a reaction :idc:.

But let's blame the black box on the floor rather than parent the child, eh?

Are these same mothers replacing the TV each time rather than addressing the clear issues with their children?

Also, I hope you get paid the going rate of a psychologist, given that I gather you carried out a full assessment of these countless kids.

You can only parent the child after the event has happened, what i am saying is that gaming can trigger a reaction like that in a kid that hasnt shown any signs of anger in the past so im not do sure why you are getting as arsey as ts is.

I take my side on this issue using real life experience which i think is the best way to go as gaming is such a big money spinner now that only an idiot would believe any studys in the matter.

Some children are prone to frustration. My son is a case in point. He gets terribly frustrated with lego....at the moment that frustration manifests as tears as he is only 7. I am a fairly calm person so he doesn't get his frustration from me. He doesn't have any gaming consoles yet (although I'm tight because everyone in his class has at least 1 apparently) so his frustrations stems from somewhere else. Most children grow out of it I think

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I provided links that back up my theory... you rubbished them.
That said there is no concrete evidence either way all I'm asking for is not to be insulted for putting foward a view... :/

I'm not getting arsey.

On the topic, emphasis on the word "trigger".
A wife who forgets to buy something from the shop can trigger her abusive husband to give her a smack. Is she the cause and reason for his violent temper? Or is she just an outlet for issues he already has?

The same applies here. If they're not throwing gaming consoles around in frustration at a game they lost, they're screaming their head off with road rage in a car or throwing the spanner across the shed when trying to fix their bike.

Triggers come in many forms, but are not the cause of someone's personality traits.

Well... we're all only using our experiences. That's all we can do.

What I will say is, meeting mothers who need new TV's due to kids throwing consoles is not a valid argument to back up the point you were making. That's not a source or evidence, it's simply an anecdote.

Hi annie.

Would it be fair to say most kids grow out of lego so the frustrations go away?

If so, if that child was then given a games console, the childs frustrations would increase rather than stay the same due to the amounts of adreniline the childs body can produce as it ages? And can it increase further as the games they can access are designed to produce more adreniline rushes?

Hey Parm

I honestly don't know about that....I think my son's frustration stems from being fairly intelligent but his motor skills are still developing so whilst he knows what he wants to do and how things should work his coordination skills are still developing. I've not let him have a console as I prefer him to play out and play with toys while he's still young enough to do that and has far too much energy to sit still and play a game. my stepson is a gamer and isn't affected by the games he plays but he is very laid back. He can lose hours playing though.

Perhaps marsh knows the answer?


Sound like a contented life. May i ask what games the oldest plays?

All the usual ones teens play (he's 16) but I don't know what they are lol. There is a lot of shooting and thats when I lose interest. Although he doesnt want CoD WW2 as hes a bit done with COD. He plays a lot of betas on the PS.

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And what I'm saying is, if a kid has an anger / frustration response like that triggered by something as simple as playing a game, it's probably better that it IS triggered by playing a game / lobbing a controller, so that they can get help early with their anger and impulse control problems... Because something is going to trigger it eventually, and rather a smashed TV than a glass smashed in someone's face at the pub, or a fist smashed in a girlfriend or wife's face for pissing him off. No?

i was slicing monsters into pieces with a chainsaw when i was eleven years old on gears of war. i am now suffering from a severe addiction to korean boy bands. keep violent video games away from your kids, people! you don't want your son to end up like me!

Less of the snide remarks please.

It's almost as though you can't stand someone challenging your posts.

Again, I refer to my Loch Ness monster argument.

I've not insulted you so drop the victim act and accept the fact that people can have their opinions on YOUR opinions because that's how discussions works.

You made a absolute statement that is ultimately unfounded despite many studies since the early 90's to try to determine whether games can make people more violent. Science has not been able to find a link in that long, it's safe to say that it does not exist.

You can make your statements and I (and anyone else) are perfectly entitled to tell you that you are wrong and point out why.

Let's be real here, Parm does not believe a word he is saying and what he has said has already been disproven by years of research by psychiatrists and scientists that understand the human condition and the causes and effects of emotional issues far better than anyone here.

If all those studies couldn't find proof that games make people more prone to violent acts or anger that they didn't already have the potential for then it doesn't exist.

So I refer to actual scientific study and you to an analogy involving the Loch Ness monster?... ok.

I haven't stated at all that games make people violent.... you're wrong there,I suggested they normalise violence to an extent where it may be possible to become desensitised TO violence.

I had an opinion on the topic, it'd disingenuous of you to suggest I haven't watched the trailer or if I did I mustn't have understood it, I found that insulting. It's not for you to say how I find your responses .

I don't accept your 'right ' to tell me my opinions are wrong, and as I have stated many times now the accusation of being ignorant or inexperienced on any given topic is not a reason to denigrate anyones opinion.

It may be that a longitudinal study is required the measure the childhood to adulthood effects...who knows?

I don't care one iota whether you feel my opinion is wrong, bur have the respect to acknowledge I am entitled to feel how I choose on this or any topic.

Hey, that was my attempt at including you in my mini interlude with anniek....


Laters haters.:wavey:

No it was your attempt at a dig because you have nothing to say in response to the last post I made to you.

But instead of leaving the conversation gracefully you had to leave a passive aggressive remark.

2 points to Hufflepuff I guess. :shrug:

As we've already said, the study you linked to had a fatal flaw that you haven't really responded to. Sure, if people play enough games they become desensitised to violence WITHIN games but that doesn't mean they become desensitised to REAL violence or become more prone to committing it either.

Like I said in the examples before, if you watch a sad film enough times, it won't affect you the way it did when you first watched it, it doesn't mean that you won't be emotionally affected if you were to suffer a similar emotional event in real life as the characters in the said film.

It's been over twenty years since these kinds of studies have taken place and that's probably not counting the studies that would have happened in the 80's and such when Mary Whitehouse got up on a soapbox and wanted to ban whatever upset her. If there was any real proof, it would have been discovered by now.

Don't try to make out people are insulting you because you are losing the argument, you are reaching with these accusations and it's obvious to everyone.

It IS my right to tell you you are wrong because that's my ****ing opinion. I don't care if you can't accept that, it doesn't change the fact that I think you're wrong and all you are doing with your accusations is exactly what you are accusing me of doing.

That kind of argument doesn't hold water because we can all become desensitised to things due to the media.

It no longer shocks me, for example, when you hear of another needless mass killing in America.

However, does that mean where I to witness such an atrocity I would actually be desensitised to the violence and murder unfolding in front of me.

It's laughable to compare the clicking of a button on a control pad as something happens to an image on a screen and real people doing real things. It seems most kids see that more than grown adults do.

In your head maybe...sorry marsh but i found annieks post more helpfull in understanding the matter so quoted her instead of you again as it wasnt going anywhere..i did ask if you may know to include you..but i dont care anymore..you have shown your hatred for me...so you, dezzy and ts can continue coming into thread after thread simply to belittle and ignore others opinions and thoughts as though they are simple or unworthy all you want...some of the reading on tibb atm is hard to read and its mostly coming from the mentioned members atm.


I shall leave now as i will be the one sitting staring at the you are banned screen...take your hate elsewhere though, i dont need it.:nono: