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Smithy 27-02-2019 08:42 PM
Niamh I’m not sure how you can say people are closed minded when there is scientific evidence to back up the defense but I haven’t really seen anything credible that hasn’t already been explained through various testing

Josy 27-02-2019 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10460458)
Just cos someone is a bad person and did lots of bad things doesn't mean they can't be innocent of this one particular bad thing, it's a big part of the huge flaw in the way that this was investigated that assumptions were made based on Averys character and conclusions were pre-empted..
Exactly this.

Regardless of opinions towards Steven Avery, the whole thing stinks of complete corruption from start to finish and there was no way that the jury would have truly have found him guilty beyond reasonable doubt if evidence hadn't been tampered with and so on, at the very least he is entitled to a new trial.

Josy 27-02-2019 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10459967)
I watched the first series then did a load of reading up afterwards and I think he definitely did it. I started watching the second but I found it so biased It annoyed me. Peter Hyatt did a good statement analysis on him. Also, I wouldn't say "poor" him anything he's done some horrible **** besides that (that were very glossed over in the documentary. Brendan dassey also told his mother in a recorded phone conversation that Steve sexually abused him

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...entencing.html
You really missed a lot not watching the second season, some of the criminal testing Kathleen carried out was truly eye opening and then the stuff that came out about Bobby was actually sickening :eek:

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10460502)
Niamh, do you not think it's possible that it was Brendan's step-father and brother that did it? and that the police planted it on Avery because not only had he embarrassed them, but he was due to profit big time off them?


I can't understand how someone who was going to receive the financial gain he was, doing something like this.
I don't think a violent murderer would not be a violent murder just because he was going to get money

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10460514)
You really missed a lot not watching the second season, some of the criminal testing Kathleen carried out was truly eye opening and then the stuff that came out about Bobby was actually sickening :eek:
The whole family seem.like weirdos tbf

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10460503)
Niamh I’m not sure how you can say people are closed minded when there is scientific evidence to back up the defense but I haven’t really seen anything credible that hasn’t already been explained through various testing
There's scientific evidence to back up the prosecution though, it's why he's in jail now. That it was planted is a theory, a defence

Josy 27-02-2019 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460518)
The whole family seem.like weirdos tbf
The proof of what was recovered from bobby's computer makes him a lot worse than a weirdo.

I still genuinely don't get how the prosecution can describe exactly how she was murdered when they never even had a body or any remains worth examining :think:

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10460502)
Niamh, do you not think it's possible that it was Brendan's step-father and brother that did it? and that the police planted it on Avery because not only had he embarrassed them, but he was due to profit big time off them?


I can't understand how someone who was going to receive the financial gain he was, doing something like this.
Regarding the step dad and brother, they definitely seem shady but so does Steve and he was the one who specifically requested Teresa come that day and who Teresa had said scared her

Josy 27-02-2019 08:55 PM
On a side note, watching Kathleen and her teams testing etc on this case peaked my interest so I read up and watched other cases she had worked on, she is really amazing at what she does

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10460524)
The proof of what was recovered from bobby's computer makes him a lot worse than a weirdo.



I still genuinely don't get how the prosecution can describe exactly how she was murdered when they never even had a body or any remains worth examining :think:
They had shells from Steve's gun with her DNA on it

Niamh. 27-02-2019 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10460528)
On a side note, watching Kathleen and her teams testing etc on this case peaked my interest so I read up and watched other cases she had worked on, she is really amazing at what she does
Have you watched the Staircase Josy? That's an interesting one

Josy 27-02-2019 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460531)
They had shells from Steve's gun with her DNA on it
Tests in the second season refuted that iirc

Smithy 27-02-2019 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460531)
They had shells from Steve's gun with her DNA on it
No they didn’t

Josy 27-02-2019 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460535)
Have you watched the Staircase Josy? That's an interesting one
Yeah I did, I changed my mind about what happened so many times watching that :laugh:

Alf 27-02-2019 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460516)
I don't think a violent murderer would not be a violent murder just because he was going to get money
Taking away the cat story, he hadn't been a violent murderer of humans before this. He'd just got his freedom having been locked up for 15 years for something he didn't do, and he was going to gain financially in a big way.

I'm not saying it's not possible that he did it despite that, just that it doesn't seem logical, from a normal point of view.

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10460536)
Tests in the second season refuted that iirc
Hhhmm so the defence say

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10460545)
Taking away the cat story, he hadn't been a violent murderer of humans before this. He'd just got his freedom having been locked up for something he didn't do, and he was going to gain financially in a big way.



I'm not saying it's not possible that he did it despite that, just that it doesn't seem logical, from a normal point of view.
You aren't exactly dealing with normal people though

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10460541)
Yeah I did, I changed my mind about what happened so many times watching that [emoji23]
Same, it was a very unbiased documentary though that one.

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10460538)
No they didn’t
They did

Smithy 27-02-2019 09:05 PM
I think you should watch S2 of MaM niamh just to see the scientific evidence which Kathleen pus forward

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10460553)
I think you should watch S2 of MaM niamh just to see the scientific evidence which Kathleen pus forward
I don't trust the documentarys

Josy 27-02-2019 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460557)
I don't trust the documentarys
Its mostly Kathleen and her team of experts

Smithy 27-02-2019 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10460557)
I don't trust the documentarys
Ok but what about the experiments they do that disproves the states theory? How can you distrust scientific proof

Alf 27-02-2019 09:18 PM
If God see's all and there is a Heaven and Hell, then justice will be served in the after life.

But in this life we have to rely on people and whether you trust people or not.

Niamh. 27-02-2019 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10460563)
Ok but what about the experiments they do that disproves the states theory? How can you distrust scientific proof
One scientific experiment saying another is disproved by the defence? Not exactly rock solid in my view. Let's see how the prosecution deal with it with their own experts


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