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arista 15-07-2022 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11190847)
I'm stunned Labour hasn't firmly backed this action.
Stop faffing about Starmer and start to stand with the people he should be.

Genuine grievances here not helped by the present Con governments apparent disinterest and arrogance.


Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.

bots 15-07-2022 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11190924)
Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.

that is completely irrelevant now :laugh:

joeysteele 15-07-2022 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11190924)
Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.


If Starmer is taking any notice of Blair then Starmer will lose out anyway.
I can't see how standing with people whose support you need to win back should be a problem.

This is what's wrong in part with politics that politicians don't do and support the things they should do and need to.
Fearing any kind of biased media backlash.
So sit on the fence pathetically.

arista 15-07-2022 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11190972)
If Starmer is taking any notice of Blair then Starmer will lose out anyway.
I can't see how standing with people whose support you need to win back should be a problem.

This is what's wrong in part with politics that politicians don't do and support the things they should do and need to.
Fearing any kind of biased media backlash.
So sit on the fence pathetically.

He said live
on an interview
he is happy to take advice from Tony Blair
in order to win the next general election.

Starmer appears to be like New Labour
was.

joeysteele 16-07-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11190994)
He said live
on an interview
he is happy to take advice from Tony Blair
in order to win the next general election.

Starmer appears to be like New Labour
was.

Without input from Blair, Labour has got to a stronger position.

Yes, Blair won 3 elections so on a strategy to final success perhaps Blair has ideas on presentation and what to make the main thrust of campaigns.

Although Starmer should know that himself.
He's fought in 2 elections at high level of his own prominence.
He should already know what should have been better to do and know all that was going wrong and ended up wholly negative for Labour.

What wasn't wrong in my view were the policies.
I campaigned in both 2017 and 2019 and people, not just Labour supporters liked the policies.
They disliked intensely the awkward Brexit plans and had turned solidly against Corbyn personally.
Not against his policies however.

If Starmer really clears out, after his trip back to the drawing board on policies, if he does clear out the popular policies of 2017 and 2019.
Then he will put at risk the position Labour is in at this moment.
Because the position we of Labour are in at present is because of a now growing dissent against the Con Party, not any real solid love for Labour.

If Starmer listens to Blair on policymaking then for me that will be a.great mistake.

Blair won 3 elections, however the last one in 2005 with only just over 35% of the votes cast.
Blair was on the way out.

Starmer either is or isn't the leader who has HIS plan or he's not.

Labour doesn't need a ridiculously termed NEW Labour Blair like creation.
It just needs the right policies for NOW and to present them honestly to the voters.

arista 17-07-2022 11:49 AM

That ALSLEF Train Drivers Union
General Secretary Mick Whelan
was live on Ridge
SkyNewsHD

He as not put a number on what the Drivers
pay rise should be?
Roughly £59,000 is the Medium Salary for a Driver.

He is fighting Private Rail Companies
who have been told by the Government not to give
more than 2% increase.


I think he needs to tell Arriva Rail and the others
what he needs.

arista 26-07-2022 12:48 PM

The Train Strike
is going ahead.
Tomorrow,


Will go onto Thursday AM as well.


The offer is 8% pay increase
RMT has said it's more like 5%

The Slim Reaper 26-07-2022 12:51 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...L9uJM&usqp=CAU

bots 26-07-2022 12:52 PM

i'm actually with Slim on this one :worry:

The Slim Reaper 26-07-2022 12:57 PM

Welcome, comrade. :laugh:

_Seth 26-07-2022 01:28 PM

I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(

arista 26-07-2022 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth (Post 11194250)
I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(


Good Luck Seth,


Try to keep us updated
if you find time.

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2022 02:20 PM

Ex-Mrs LT and the children were due to go to London on train tomorrow and now she is having to drive down!

bots 26-07-2022 02:25 PM

i bet the petrol protestors will be out in force tomorrow too :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2022 02:51 PM

On Thursday Ex-Mrs LT will go and see her best pal of 32 years, in hospital and she knows and her best pal knows that when she says bye and leaves that they will never see each other again - its so very sad :sad:

Cherie 26-07-2022 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11194274)
On Thursday Ex-Mrs LT will go and see her best pal of 32 years, in hospital and she knows and her best pal knows that when she says bye and leaves that they will never see each other again - its so very sad :sad:

Heart breaking :sad:

arista 26-07-2022 04:36 PM

Another Strike announced August 19th
London Underground



https://news.sky.com/story/london-tu...sions-12659565


[Workers on the London Underground
are to strike on 19 August in a row
over jobs and pensions, the RMT union has said.]

Zizu 26-07-2022 04:38 PM

UK Rail RMT Union Railway Strike,Weds 27 & 30th,July & 18th & 20 August
 
I do wonder if all these strikes should be allowed in these troubled times .

The country ( well the world really ) is practically on its knees ...and it’s getting worse with every day


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arista 26-07-2022 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11194288)
I do wonder if these strikes should be allowed in these troubled times .

The country ( well the world really ) is practically on its knees ...




Liz Truss will make changes.

bots 26-07-2022 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11194289)
Liz Truss will make changes.

Truss seems to be really rockin your world Arista. What is it that you like the most? When she dresses up as Maggie?

arista 27-07-2022 06:19 AM

Shadow Transport Minister
Sam Tarry MP
defies Starmer's order to not join the picket line.

He was Live on GMBHD itv
and he is Live on BBC1AM now

arista 27-07-2022 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11194298)
Truss seems to be really rockin your world Arista. What is it that you like the most? When she dresses up as Maggie?

What she wears does not matter.
Being prime minister is above that.

Vanessa 27-07-2022 06:49 AM

A strike just on the day I'm travelling. Typical :fist:
But I was smart. I came to the airport yesterday and stayed at a hotel :dance:

Vanessa 27-07-2022 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth (Post 11194250)
I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(

It was fine yesterday. But today strike. I had to travel the day before.

Vanessa 27-07-2022 06:50 AM

Really hope there won't be any strikes when I come back :fist:


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