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arista 04-08-2024 10:49 AM

Good GBnewsHD
does their Normal Political show 9:30AM -11AM Sundays
featured Jenrick, David Davis.

Unlike BBC Laura and
And Sky News Trevor both on breaks

bots 04-08-2024 11:03 AM

i don't think any of the candidates will be able to turn round the tory party. None of them are without blame for the absolute mess the tory party has been in for the last few years. The eventual leader will be someone that breaks through that had a relatively clean pair of hands through all the mess. That's going to take time, probably at least a couple of years, so this is all a giant waste of time at the moment

Livia 04-08-2024 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11488475)
i don't think any of the candidates will be able to turn round the tory party. None of them are without blame for the absolute mess the tory party has been in for the last few years. The eventual leader will be someone that breaks through that had a relatively clean pair of hands through all the mess. That's going to take time, probably at least a couple of years, so this is all a giant waste of time at the moment

I tend to agree with that.

arista 18-08-2024 11:20 PM

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arista 02-09-2024 10:16 AM

Kemi



Now,
Live on 3 news channels



Talking about her vision..............

Livia 02-09-2024 10:19 AM

Kemi... The best of a really sucky bunch.

arista 02-09-2024 10:28 AM

She is taking
Press questions

arista 02-09-2024 10:34 AM

SkyNewsHD is still with it


BBCnewsHD left it going to their reporter.

arista 02-09-2024 09:49 PM

Mel Stride MP is likely to be the first kicked out
of this race.


SkyNewsHD Newspaper review Live

Crimson Dynamo 02-09-2024 09:52 PM

The Tory Party and Man united are very similar at the moment

arista 02-09-2024 10:29 PM

Kemi Badenoch MP
Tom Tugendhat MP
Robert Jenrick MP
James Cleverly MP
Mel Stride MP
Priti Patel MP



6 of them
soon to be 5 or 4 of them

arista 03-09-2024 10:23 AM

Tom Tugendhat MP
was live on all 3 news ch's,

He was surrounded by Young Men

The BBC News feed Froze.
so that was the end of that, they never went back

SkyNewsHD
and GBnewsHD carried on with the live broadcast.



Meanwhile Mel Stride MP
has not bothered to do an event
so he should be gone soon

joeysteele 03-09-2024 11:11 AM

I really did think that Tom Tugendhat could have been a very good leader of the Conservative party.
Even just 2+ years ago I felt that.

Not now.
He's gone down sadly the silly more ugly rhetoric and is as much a part of the problem of the past years of shambles too.

Probably Kemi Badenoch is a safer choice but she too is still part of and a reminder of the shambolic period of government just ended in July.
So it may be, she will find herself replaced before the next election.

It's no joy to me to see the oldest Party in politics in the state it's in.
It's got major problems on several fronts.
To win Reform voters back the Cons will need to get to even more extreme ugly rhetoric.
Thereby alienating the more moderate thinking voters.

To win over the more moderate voters, they'll need to stop running up the rearside of UKIP MK3, really the Reform party.
So then could lose more of Con members and some of their voters from 2024 too.

I would not like to be the next Con leader.

Livia 03-09-2024 11:16 AM

Whoever comes up with a viable, workable plan to curb immigration and stop the boats will sweep to victory. That will not be Labour or the Tories.

bots 03-09-2024 11:20 AM

it's not as obvious to everyone, but the tory party now doesn't bear any resemblance to the tory party of the 90's or earlier. It doesn't reflect the majority view of the british public. Whoever wins the leadership wont turn round tory party popularity because they aren't tories anymore.

I honestly don't think the party as it exists now will be around in 10 years. A new party needs to be created that better reflects normal british people without extremist viewpoints

Livia 03-09-2024 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11501838)
it's not as obvious to everyone, but the tory party now doesn't bear any resemblance to the tory party of the 90's or earlier. It doesn't reflect the majority view of the british public. Whoever wins the leadership wont turn round tory party popularity because they aren't tories anymore.

I honestly don't think the party as it exists now will be around in 10 years. A new party needs to be created that better reflects normal british people without extremist viewpoints

Do you think Reform holds extremist viewpoints?

bots 03-09-2024 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11501840)
Do you think Reform holds extremist viewpoints?

absolutely

Livia 03-09-2024 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11501862)
absolutely

Like what, for instance?

bots 03-09-2024 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11501864)
Like what, for instance?

if you don't know that, there is no point in me explaining

bots 03-09-2024 02:53 PM

they also promote racial hate, sometimes subtly other times blatantly

Crimson Dynamo 03-09-2024 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11501900)
they also promote racial hate, sometimes subtly other times blatantly

garbage

Livia 03-09-2024 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11501900)
they also promote racial hate, sometimes subtly other times blatantly

I was expecting more. One of Reform's biggest donors is a Muslim man. The party chairman is called Zia Yusuf. They promote defended borders, that's my take.

GiRTh 03-09-2024 05:54 PM

Are we for real gonna have this discussion about Reform? One of their top contributors is Muslim so that means.......nothing.:shrug:

Those who want to have this discussion. If you haven't read the literature then please do. Dont play people as naïve by asking them to explain, with examples that you approve of, why they think Reform are racist. We all know thats a discussion that will go round and round. Lets flip it, explain to us, the unenlightened, why you think people think Reform are racist. Please provide examples that I approve of :thumbs:

Livia 03-09-2024 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11501964)
Are we for real gonna have this discussion about Reform? One of their top contributors is Muslim so that means.......nothing.:shrug:

Those who want to have this discussion. If you haven't read the literature then please do. Dont play people as naïve by asking them to explain, with examples that you approve of, why they think Reform are racist. We all know thats a discussion that will go round and round. Lets flip it, explain to us, the unenlightened, why you think people think Reform are racist. Please provide examples that I approve of :thumbs:



You don't talk to me anymore, for some reason. Had you replied to my post for a debate I would have had a conversation with you. But you didn't. Instead you're here to intimate we're all racists when that's simply not true. I don't see that protecting the borders of this country is a racist endeavour. You may, that is your prerogative.

arista 03-09-2024 07:01 PM

Tomorrow
one of the six
is removed.


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