Words fail me. I always had you down as a clued up poster too...

I have never said, anywhere, that he is violent himself, but that he has supported those that are is out there for all to see. Except for those who refuse to see it.

Could you link to any evidence then to educate us please?

I don't know that it's a matter of refusing to see it... but like I said, if we had to automatically disqualify any politician who has kept company with other dodgy political figures in the past then there wouldn't be any politicians at all. Politics - and especially the rise through politics to anywhere near the top - is murky. Should it be? In an ideal world, no, but this idea that Corbyn has done anything worse than any other high-profile political figure in the past is just straight up false :shrug:. I mean, let's not forget how many high profile Western politicians broke bread with Saddam Hussein. Let's not pretend that supporting the Israeli establishment isn't supporting violence. Let's not forget that the current Conservative government, and other past UK governments - without apology - sell military equipment in the middle east followed by a cosy dinner with the buyers.

I disagree that Corbyn has supported or endorsed violent action. I will agree that it seems like he has overlooked violence at times, perhaps put on the blinkers to suit a political agenda. And I genuinely do understand that you have a personal connection to this issue that makes it seem more serious than the "accepted" overlooking of violence within politics that occurs across the board (including right now with ConDUP)

So all you can really do is look at the bare facts; would Corbyn, if he became PM, realistically, invite or condone terrorism or violence in the UK? The answer is a flat "no".

I already have. You can't educate those who don't want to be educated about cuddly ole Jeremy.

All you have is one article by a right wing paper, what evidence is that?

First rate,balanced and totally right post in my view.
Really well said, I've nothing to add to it.

This is the post of this thread for me.

Indeed.

Also the posting of a telegraph link as 'facts' is a bit...odd.

The difference is that Corbyn had no political agenda to help bring peace or any other political necessity, he wasn't even an MP in the 70's when he was an outright IRA supporter. I suppose he just spoke at IRA rallies and commemorations for murderers as a fun day out. I suppose he was just an integral part of a hard line paper promoting violence for a wee hobby. I suppose he just buddied up to IRA killers because he was lonely. Yeah yeah...
and how many times do I have to say he had no part in the peace process whatsoever no matter how he tries to spin it.
You are forgetting many here in N.Ireland know of him and his past proclivities, but nobody will believe us, will they? We are all liars, us, the press and the the whole media, and he isn't. End of story. Fine.

I said he overlooked the violence to suit his political agenda; I didn't say anything about him being part of the peace process. My point was that you seem to be of the opinion that other high profile politicians are a better option or haven't been close to similar people over the years (and let's face it, ongoing)... Which just is not true. You have a laser-focus on Corbyn because it specifically concerns NI and that's understandable, but in the process, you seem just as willing to disregard the shady connections that other current politicians have?

Oh I could discuss them all right if I had the time....and if I could keep my anger under control which is hard enough just discussing Corbyn.
My current focus is on Corbyn, who could possibly become the future Prime Minister of my country. He actually could get there at some point. If another politician with a shady past of supporting violence comes along and could become my PM, I'll concern myself with them too.

Like your current PM Theresa May who openly and proudly supplies the Middle East with weapons for profit?

Yes, just like her. Cold bitch. She's already PM and and I don't want another one that supports violence, especially one who supported the violence that killed my friends. My bad.

Selling arms to Saudi Arabia is DIRECTLY supporting violence, death and destruction in parts of the World that are struggling just to exist.
Hypocritical.............but then that what people like May are all about. Denounce violence unless there's money to be made from it, then it's acceptable.:bored:

Here is an interesting interview by Andrew Neil on Corbyn https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...l-transcript/# Neil directly asks some very pertinent questions and Corbyn answers are convincing. Corbyn openly talks about the accusation by Sean O’Callaghan, that Corbyn had no involvement with Good Friday. Its an interesting interview that we should all read.

Corbyn was watched and investigated by MI5 for 15 years and they came up with zilch.

Clarifying the ridiculous 'sit down for tea and biscuits' accusation. War and more killing is not the answer..that much is obvious. So why on earth do people insist on making out Corbyn is a clown for wanting to do something besides bomb innocent people?! Its so weird.

Because people are angry by nature and what most are really looking for is not a solution - it's vengeance.

And you know this how? Did the MI5 disclose their findings to you?
Ask yourself this: why did they open a file on him in the first place? You can't arrest someone unless they actually commit a crime. Corbyn didn't actually carry out any killings himself, he condoned and lauded those that did.

I'm not playing a victim, you were the one whittering on about me 'trying to drag you down' - paranoid or what! Yes I have made personal snipes at posts I see as ridiculous, not just yours, so therefore not personal.

You need to re-read your posts as they nearly always make personal snipes at others with a lot of use of ******** - so you talk *****.

They had files on and even tapped the phones of people who took part in the picketing and protests that happened when the Miner's Strike was ongoing. It didn't take a lot for MI5 to show interest in you back in the day.

He was arrested for protesting as far as I am aware.

So you have nothing to add to the topic aside from more personal snipes.