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That's not what I was getting to.

I never said get rid of it.

They can not force a country to use the Euro currently 7 countries in the EU dont use it and 4 out of it use it

I was getting at that if you wanted to leave the EU you'd surely want to leave the Euro too.

But most people in France wanted to keep the Euro, so I'd imagine they'd want to stay in the EU too.

Yes I know,

but it's changed so if you're a new member you have to accept the Euro.

It's well spoken about if Scots leave the UK and join the EU they'd have to adopt the Euro.

You need a 2 year financial period 1st which is the reason Bulgaria dont use it and Scotland wont have a currency

Or like Ireland we'll just keep voting til certain people get the vote they wanted

Like Vicky said, before the result was revealed Leavers were already demanding another vote because they thought they lost.

Get this silly idea of 'overturning' the vote out of your head, if there was another referendum and the public democratically voted to remain then that's the democratic decision of the people, just like how it would be democracy if they voted to leave again. Honestly do you believe that, if people voted for a different party from the one currently in power during an election then they've undemocratically 'overturned' the previous election? No because that's silly, the people are always allowed to change their minds, that's the ****ing point of a referendum!

All votes are democratic whether you like them or not and NO vote has ever been final, we have left the EU before and have decided to rejoin afterwards remember. If referendums were as permanent as you make them out to be then the very act of voting to leave in the 2016 Referendum would have been considered undemocratic by your standards since we had our referendum on the issue in 1975 and chose to remain.

As for your last paragraph, have you not been reading the thread? Did you purposefully choose to ignore the two posts in which I've said I want a hard brexit at this point? Also, can you stop speaking of democracy until you actually understand what Democracy is? Because you sure as hell haven't displayed any understanding in this thread or any thread when you bring up the same argument in an attempt to silence anyone who has an opinion you don't like.

What Juncker won't tell you about the EU
 

http://www.cityam.com/271679/juncker...real-state-eu-

Anyone Who trusts this man is easily fooled. I wouldn't trust him further than I could sling him.

"Ok Google, search the web for the European Union is very very bad"
*copies link, opens tibb, pastes link*

This.

But, welcome to off season on thisisbigbrother.com

Thankfully we don't all believe the EU to be so very, very good! :pat:

The Referendum happened last year, Brillo.

You won't Believe What He Really Thinks!

The EU is a mess, but the referendum has happened and the wheels are turning. A thread like this is no more constructive than one about its good points tbh.

Tell that to Corbyn!

If Corbyn wants to sperg on about the EU, that's his prerogative, let him waste his breath is that's his idea of a high afternoon, he won't get anywhere.

The EU is a mess but those who want to cling on seem to be blind to the issues and uninterested in the impact the EU has had and is having on our oceans and fishing, not to mention the lack of democracy, so it's kind of pointless trying to educate, they can't take the strain of having to use a passport for the duty frees.

Exactly. The likes of Juncker etc have shown themselves to be no more trustworthy than most of our MPs. They are trying to put on a brave face to suggest that all is well and enforcing their powers, whilst Europe crumbles around them.

I suspect a huge financial corruption scandal will happen at some point. I hope we are long gone when it does so we don't get dragged down with it.

I agree. I just don't get why people refuse to see the issues with the EU. No-one can be that blind - can they!

So you admit that our MPs are corrupt? Well that's a start.
If we keep our banking structure, rely on capitalism and austerity we are quite literally dead in the water.
In or out of the EU.

The EU has done a lot of good and we can't deny that. Its also done a lot of bad which we can now rid ourselves of. We need though, to look at the good policies and continue those policies within British law, whilst getting rid of the policies that suffocated us.

I'm delighted that we can now reform our fisheries and farming laws because EU common agricultural policies has robbed both farmers and fishermen of their trade. We need (and this is close to my heart) to stop the transportation of live animals for meat (and I didn't know this until I watched a parliamentary debate) we need to stop funding bullfighting in Spain, but we do need to continue the protection of our natural habitats. EU law has ensured we cleaned up our act with rivers and beaches from sewage. Before we joined the EU Blackpool beach wasn’t even listed as a beach or shown as a beach on maps because it was so filthy. The reason its an award winning beach today is because the EU made us take responsibility. Some regulations need to continue, not under the EU directive but under our own laws and regulations.

We need to take the good and discard the bad.

Okay, you've mentioned Corbyn for no apparent reason in a topic relating to EU, can we get a muslim mention for a full house?

Seems I need to connect the dots for you - Corbyn has done a u-turn on Brexit which amounts to overturning the referendum result. See the connection.

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Great post, how nice to agree for a change, it's been a while.

Okay sweetheart, you might need to sit down for this for what I'm about to tell you.

Jeremy Corbyn is not in power, Theresa May and the Tories are. Bleating on about Corbyn in order to bury your head in the sand over the mistakes you made in voting for the Tories won't change the fact that they're the ones running the show.

Resorting to sexist put downs again. Remind me how progressive you are! Real professional.

Being in power is not the issue, it is about intent and the lengths he will go to to try to get that power.

How do you calculate your economists up? How do you know which are the dozens and which are the few? Can you name then, have you got a graph?

I don't know why people keep trying to complain that the economy is in the toilet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34621440

27 October 2015

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So fast on my misfire. Having a few problems with my tablet this morning and posted before I was finished. I was going to add that we are still growing after the recession and add:

https://ig.ft.com/sites/numbers/economies/uk

I don't see any positives there... what are you seeing?

Our country is in the top ten leading economies of the world, at five I believe, if you can't see any positives then there isn't much more I can say.

In relation to the infographs you presented as proof... Are you saying because we are doing better than 3rd world and developing countries we are OK?
:/

Our economy is comparable to Germany's are they a third world country?