All of the teachers that work with special needs schools have received it here also Cherie. Main stream teachers haven’t received them.

so what is your point to Kaz about then :shrug:

and have you a response to Annie whose son is in mainstream?

also do you think a 30 year old teacher should get a jab before someone who is 55 and works in a supermarket?

Everyone dealing with the public should get a vaccine.

And my point to kaz was that ALL teachers should be vaccinated before the schools open

Im not vunerable and Ive had it, so have others at our school.

You just said you work in a special needs school though haven’t you? That’s why you have had it.

A lot of teachers in my area have had to lie and say they work with special needs children to secure a jab.

There hasn’t been a program to specifically get teachers vaccinated.

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But statisticians caution that the figures do not necessarily mean that their deaths were caused by the places they worked.

Male Covid deaths by occupation
These were the sectors with the highest death rates for men:

elementary occupations (manual labour) (66.3 deaths per 100,000 males in that sector; 699 deaths)

caring, leisure and other service occupations (64.1 deaths per 100,000 males in that sector; 258 deaths)

process, plant and machine operatives (52.8 deaths per 100,000 males; 827 deaths)

skilled trades occupations (40.4 deaths per 100,000 males; 848 deaths)

sales and customer service occupations (40.3 deaths per 100,000 males; 156 deaths)

administrative and secretarial occupations (39.0 deaths per 100,000 males; 186 deaths)

More specifically, these were the jobs with the highest death rates from Covid for men:

restaurant and catering establishment managers and proprietors (119.3 deaths per 100,000 males in that sector; 26 deaths)

metal working and machine operatives (106.1 deaths per 100,000 males; 40 deaths)

food, drink and tobacco process operatives (103.7 deaths per 100,000 males; 52 deaths)

chefs (103.1 deaths per 100,000 males; 82 deaths)

taxi and cab drivers and chauffeurs (101.4 deaths per 100,000 males; 209 deaths)

nursing auxiliaries and assistants (87.2 deaths per 100,000 males; 45 deaths)

elementary construction occupations (82.1 deaths per 100,000 males; 70 deaths)

nurses (79.1 deaths per 100,000 males; 47 deaths)

local government administrative occupations (72.1 deaths per 100,000 males; 23 deaths)

bus and coach drivers (70.3 deaths per 100,000 males; 83 deaths)

Female Covid deaths by occupation


process, plant and machine operatives (33.7 deaths per 100,000 females; 57 deaths)

caring, leisure and other service occupations (27.3 deaths per 100,000 females; 460 deaths)

elementary occupations (21.1 deaths per 100,000 females; 227 deaths)

More specifically, these were the jobs with the highest death rates from Covid for women:

social workers (32.4 deaths per 100,000 females; 25 deaths)

national government administrative occupations (27.9 deaths per 100,000 females; 26 deaths)

sales and retail assistants (26.9 deaths per 100,000 females; 111 deaths)

managers and directors in retail and wholesale (26.7 deaths per 100,000 females, 24 deaths)

nursing auxiliaries and assistants (25.3 deaths per 100,000 females; 54 deaths)

nurses (24.5 deaths per 100,000 females; 110 deaths

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b6fe97669dd57d

so many people have gone out to work every day since the pandemic started and they wouldn't dream of lying to get a jab

If there was a program to get teachers vaccinated before being forced back to work then they wouldn’t have to lie.

They are plenty people who go out to work every day unvaccinated, wait your turn, a 30 year old teacher does not take priority over a 55 year old supermarket worker

Boris announcement on Monday 22nd February
 

It’s a different picture wherever you look I’m 63 in a few weeks and I’ve worked in a mainstream high school supporting Autistic and Aspergers teenagers for 25 years ..

I haven’t had an offer of a vaccine and none of our staff have either ..

I’m only getting mine done tonight ( hopefully) because my wife is getting hers and they offered one to me as well .


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Guess it’s a quandary ..

Second school teaching staff are crammed into a smallish classroom along with up to 33 teenagers and maybe two other adults.. . for around 5 hours per day

That’s scary given teenagers are mixing freely out of school .... masks are rarely worn ..


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I agree... especially given they could apparently have done everyone over a weekend ..

Sadly won’t be happening..


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No :idc:

I made your "if" bigger :umm2: a 3rd wave, if one comes, is IMO likely to be in late October again and (obviously) we have no data about the extent that vaccines will reduce hospitalisation/death at the 6 month+ mark... only in the short term (as people have only been vaccinated en masse for a couple of months).

It does look hopeful though and I agree, the numbers to watch beyond next Autumn, post-vaccine, will be hospitalisations and deaths with total infections becoming a less important statistic. That's not to say an unimportant statistic of course... if the vaccines only prevent severe illness but do little to limit general circulation, the chance of mutation remains high and vaccine tweaks/need for re-vaccination will be needed to stop a repeat. Severe illness being way down in a huge win, but reduced overall infection rates will always be important looking further ahead. Imagine if things look fine until October 2022 and then they're like "Wups everyone back home, we need new vaccinations" :omgno:.

there will be a third wave, not an ''if''

because of relaxing the measures too soon again

Yes but the "if" was "if" there are fewer hospitalisations associated with infections, then a 3rd wave is less of an issue.

Who's been Vaccinated so far? Have you?

Do they send for us when it's our turn or do we have to make an appointment?

Depends your age, where you live and what you do I believe.

Elderly relatives of mine got called by the doctor with an appointment to go whereas my sister and her colleagues (front line workers) had to book online themselves.

That's been my experience too, most over-65's seem to have been contacted by their GP whereas my wife was sent an email to her NHS email address informing that the vaccine was available to staff in her Trust area, and had to contact to book.

People do "slip through the net" though and I've heard of elderly people (even 85+ year olds) having to chase up their GP for an appointment, having heard nothing. Sometimes will be due to outdated contact details held by the GP, sometimes administrative errors. It's inevitable really when something is being done on a scale of millions.

I think I was in the last category to receive it, which I didn't mind. I just don't know if they'll send for me or not, because if not then I probably won't end up taking it, if it's left down to me, I tend to put things off.

To be honest, I don't ever watch the mainstream media, so I don't have much of a clue what's going on, the entire subject of Covid, bores me immensely.

My Dad got a call from a booking line and then received a letter a week after he had had the jab from his own GP.

Ring your GP and they’ll probably give you an appointment in the next week or so. :fc:

Its supply and demand, if you are over 50 you will be called by 15th April

Why would he do that if he is not in the group next in line :shrug:

Have your Mam and Dad been called Alf?

I think balham and streatham think the lockdowns over.

Oh my mistake I thought he meant he was in the last group as in the group who have just had the jabs! :omgno: sorry Alf! :joker:

I was like :oh:

If anyone has been missed and they are over 64 they can book it on here

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...s-vaccination/

:joker: Sorry Cherie!! :hehe:

I think my Mother has, I know my mother's husband went and had his today. My Dad has probably had his, he's almost 75. But I haven't spoken with him in over a month. I might give him a text later.

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My son got his appt by text, just depends on your surgery I think whether you get a letter or a text