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Morphology 13-12-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : Morphology

Yes but etre (with ^) is in the subjunctive in that sentence not vouloir!

Je veux que le subjonctif soit utilisé.

You only use subjunctive after the "que" so it would be ridiculuos to use the subjunctive form of vouloir here unless you said something like:

Bien que je veuille que le subjonctif soit utilisé.
I think we are saying the same thing but not in the same way. Anyway, I do get my point and I understand myself, sorry if you can't get it.
Well that was my point in this first place. Why bring the subjunctive form of 'vouloir' into it?

Anyway, this is just getting stupid now.

Indierock&roll 13-12-2008 03:01 PM

salut! :thumbs:

haha

SiaSiaSia 14-12-2008 03:58 PM

Finalement! Un lieu où je peut parler en français :]

Cava, mes amis? j'ai écrit réccement que j'étais partir TiBB, mais maintenant j'ai décidé c'etait un peu stupide et personne ne remarquera les deux sens. Aussi, quelquefois quand je visite TiBB, je pourrais vouloir parler quelque chose :P.

Donc, je suis une "membre inactif", peut-etre?

Sia xxx




that's such terrible french, i'll edit it later

lily. 14-12-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Angiebabe
I dislike everything about France, and this thread is even more reason why:whistle:
What an incredibly racist and narrow minded view. You should be ashamed of yourself.

AngRemembered 14-12-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Freyja
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Originally posted by Angiebabe
I dislike everything about France, and this thread is even more reason why:whistle:
What an incredibly racist and narrow minded view. You should be ashamed of yourself.
LOL
Nope, I just dislike everything to do with France and why should I be ashamed of that?

Captain.Remy 14-12-2008 04:10 PM

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Message original : Angiebabe
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Originally posted by Freyja
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Originally posted by Angiebabe
I dislike everything about France, and this thread is even more reason why:whistle:
What an incredibly racist and narrow minded view. You should be ashamed of yourself.
LOL
Nope, I just dislike everything to do with France and why should I be ashamed of that?
Can you tell us why at least ? I'm just curious.

Captain.Remy 14-12-2008 04:12 PM

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Message original : SiaSiaSia
Finalement! Un lieu où je peut parler en français :]

Cava, mes amis? j'ai écrit réccement que j'étais partir TiBB, mais maintenant j'ai décidé c'etait un peu stupide et personne ne remarquera les deux sens. Aussi, quelquefois quand je visite TiBB, je pourrais vouloir parler quelque chose :P.

Donc, je suis une "membre inactif", peut-etre?

Sia xxx




that's such terrible french, i'll edit it later
Coucou Sia,

ça fait plaisir de te voir ! :hugesmile: Tu m'as manqué, c'était un peu triste sans toi, mais je suis pas venu souvent ici.

There's a few mistakes in your post babe but they aren't big, I'll let you find them alone. :tongue:

bronaaaa 14-12-2008 04:15 PM

bonjour :xyxwave:

AngRemembered 14-12-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : Angiebabe
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Originally posted by Freyja
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Originally posted by Angiebabe
I dislike everything about France, and this thread is even more reason why:whistle:
What an incredibly racist and narrow minded view. You should be ashamed of yourself.
LOL
Nope, I just dislike everything to do with France and why should I be ashamed of that?
Can you tell us why at least ? I'm just curious.
I find most things French vastly overated, I hate snobbery which France seems to monopolise the world at.
Its acountry known for its sexist views that woman are objects, yet still claims to be a romantic paradise..LMAO

I think it must have been a typo, the country is a romantic parasite more like, and I hate it, and everything it stands for.

Captain.Remy 14-12-2008 04:25 PM

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Message original : Angiebabe

I find most things French vastly overated, I hate snobbery which France seems to monopolise the world at.
Its acountry known for its sexist views that woman are objects, yet still claims to be a romantic paradise..LMAO

I think it must have been a typo, the country is a romantic parasite more like, and I hate it, and everything it stands for.
I see what you're saying, the fact that France seems to be arrogant.
As for the sexist views, I disagree, we had a woman on the 2nd round at the Presidential elections, she's been supported by 47% of the population, that's not nothing !

Have you ever been in France ? If not, I don't know how you can have such a harsh opinion on it without being in France.
I don't like my country that much, but not for these reasons, so I can understand you.

AngRemembered 14-12-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : Angiebabe

I find most things French vastly overated, I hate snobbery which France seems to monopolise the world at.
Its acountry known for its sexist views that woman are objects, yet still claims to be a romantic paradise..LMAO

I think it must have been a typo, the country is a romantic parasite more like, and I hate it, and everything it stands for.
I see what you're saying, the fact that France seems to be arrogant.
As for the sexist views, I disagree, we had a woman on the 2nd round at the Presidential elections, she's been supported by 47% of the population, that's not nothing !

Have you ever been in France ? If not, I don't know how you can have such a harsh opinion on it without being in France.
I don't like my country that much, but not for these reasons, so I can understand you.
Yes, I've been to France,, and its the country its views and values I dislike, not its people.
It is a general view, and you will find differing examples that contradict what I have experienced, such as your view on France not being sexist.
What I will say is..more than 47% voted for Barrack Obama and he actually won his election, on this basis then can we now say that America has rid itself of extreme rascist groups?

I don't dislike French people in general and definately not merely for being French (thats the dfinition of rascist..for the person who reffered me to that) indeed I had French exchange students for 14 consecutive summers, enough time I'd say to form an oppinion of the country and I'd say more than enough time to prove I'm no rascist.
But I appreciate your asking and giving your differnet oppinion Remy, rather than taking the real narrow minded view like the other.

Captain.Remy 14-12-2008 04:46 PM

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Message original : Angiebabe

Yes, I've been to France,, and its the country its views and values I dislike, not its people.
It is a general view, and you will find differing examples that contradict what I have experienced, such as your view on France not being sexist.
What I will say is..more than 47% voted for Barrack Obama and he actually won his election, on this basis then can we now say that America has rid itself of extreme rascist groups?

I don't dislike French people in general and definately not merely for being French (thats the dfinition of rascist..for the person who reffered me to that) indeed I had French exchange students for 14 consecutive summers, enough time I'd say to form an oppinion of the country and I'd say more than enough time to prove I'm no rascist.
But I appreciate your asking and giving your differnet oppinion Remy, rather than taking the real narrow minded view like the other.
Good to know you don't dislike the people.
Of course there are sexists people over there, but the fact a woman made it this far for the first time in French history changed a lot of things. Same thing for Obama: it doesn't mean there are no longer racist groups.

I thought you were one of these people who judges without knowing but since you had a lot of experience with it, then I just have to respect.
Like I said, I don't like my country that much, it's not where I want to work, to live and to raise my children then I can fully understand what you're saying. :wink:

lily. 14-12-2008 04:47 PM

It's spelled "racist". And, I didn't call you a racist. I said you had posted a racist view. And, I stand by it.

SiaSiaSia 14-12-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : SiaSiaSia
Finalement! Un lieu où je peux parler en français :]

Ca va, mes amis? J'ai écrit récemment que je partais TiBB, mais maintenant j'ai décidé c'était un peu stupide et on ne pourrait soins* pas si j'étais d'ici ou ne pas... aussi quelquefois je peux parler quelque chose, sans les gens moi-dit "Pourquoi es-tu d'ici? Tu as quitté!" :P.

Donc, je suis une "membre un peu inactif", peut-etre?! :P

Sia xxx

EDITED :P
*Googled that, was supposed to mean "care"? as in, the sentence was "they wouldn't care if i was here or not"

Coucou Sia,

ça fait plaisir de te voir ! :hugesmile: Tu m'as manqué, c'était un peu triste sans toi, mais je suis pas venu souvent ici.

There's a few mistakes in your post babe but they aren't big, I'll let you find them alone. :tongue:
Hahaha yeah, i changed it a bit [see above] but i probably made it worse. oh well. Anyway

Merci Remy :), je suis très heureuse, je t'ai* manqué et ton visage d'un ange aussi (:P). Donc... Ça va? Cette Weekend je suis allée au Manchester! C'était très bon, mais je suis très fatiguée maintenant, parce qu'aujourd'hui j'ai beaucoup voyagé :P, et aussi la nuit dernière mon petit-ami a fait une boum que c'était bon mais j'ai fumé trop j'ai bu trop d'alcool... ;P

*haha i'm rubbish at preceding direct objects so i completley guessed that :(

Captain.Remy 15-12-2008 04:38 AM

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Message original : SiaSiaSia
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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : SiaSiaSia
Finalement! Un lieu où je peux parler en français :]

Ca va, mes amis? J'ai écrit récemment que je partais TiBB, mais maintenant j'ai décidé c'était un peu stupide et on ne pourrait soins* pas si j'étais d'ici ou ne pas... aussi quelquefois je peux parler quelque chose, sans les gens moi-dit "Pourquoi es-tu d'ici? Tu as quitté!" :P.

Donc, je suis une "membre un peu inactif", peut-etre?! :P

Sia xxx

EDITED :P
*Googled that, was supposed to mean "care"? as in, the sentence was "they wouldn't care if i was here or not"

Coucou Sia,

ça fait plaisir de te voir ! :hugesmile: Tu m'as manqué, c'était un peu triste sans toi, mais je suis pas venu souvent ici.

There's a few mistakes in your post babe but they aren't big, I'll let you find them alone. :tongue:
Hahaha yeah, i changed it a bit [see above] but i probably made it worse. oh well. Anyway

Merci Remy :), je suis très heureuse, je t'ai* manqué et ton visage d'un ange aussi (:P). Donc... Ça va? Cette Weekend je suis allée au Manchester! C'était très bon, mais je suis très fatiguée maintenant, parce qu'aujourd'hui j'ai beaucoup voyagé :P, et aussi la nuit dernière mon petit-ami a fait une boum que c'était bon mais j'ai fumé trop j'ai bu trop d'alcool... ;P

*haha i'm rubbish at preceding direct objects so i completley guessed that :(
Here are the mistakes:
'que je partais de TIBB'
'soins' means 'health care and DO NOT use Google translation, you have dozens of translators on the Internet, but not that one !
'je peux parler de quelque chose'
'sans que les gens me disent'
'Tu es partie'.

Merci pour le compliment ! Moi aussi je suis fatigué car j'ai bu et fumé aussi, un peu trop. Bisous ! :hugesmile:

ange7 15-12-2008 05:09 AM

What are you on about? Google Translation works fine....

"Merci pour le compliment ! Moi aussi je suis fatigué car j'ai bu et fumé aussi, un peu trop. Bisous !"

"Merci pour le compliment !"
Mercy pour the compliments!"

"Moi aussi je suis fatigué car"
My Aussie Jesus's tired car"

"j'ai bu et fumé aussi, un peu trop. Bisous !"
runs on butt fumes from Aussies, one fart per tropicana. Cheesy surrender kisses!

Thanks you google translator!

SiaSiaSia 15-12-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : SiaSiaSia
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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : SiaSiaSia
Finalement! Un lieu où je peux parler en français :]

Ca va, mes amis? J'ai écrit récemment que je partais TiBB, mais maintenant j'ai décidé c'était un peu stupide et on ne pourrait soins* pas si j'étais d'ici ou ne pas... aussi quelquefois je peux parler quelque chose, sans les gens moi-dit "Pourquoi es-tu d'ici? Tu as quitté!" :P.

Donc, je suis une "membre un peu inactif", peut-etre?! :P

Sia xxx

EDITED :P
*Googled that, was supposed to mean "care"? as in, the sentence was "they wouldn't care if i was here or not"

Coucou Sia,

ça fait plaisir de te voir ! :hugesmile: Tu m'as manqué, c'était un peu triste sans toi, mais je suis pas venu souvent ici.

There's a few mistakes in your post babe but they aren't big, I'll let you find them alone. :tongue:
Hahaha yeah, i changed it a bit [see above] but i probably made it worse. oh well. Anyway

Merci Remy :), je suis très heureuse, je t'ai* manqué et ton visage d'un ange aussi (:P). Donc... Ça va? Cette Weekend je suis allée au Manchester! C'était très bon, mais je suis très fatiguée maintenant, parce qu'aujourd'hui j'ai beaucoup voyagé :P, et aussi la nuit dernière mon petit-ami a fait une boum que c'était bon mais j'ai fumé trop j'ai bu trop d'alcool... ;P

*haha i'm rubbish at preceding direct objects so i completley guessed that :(
Here are the mistakes:
'que je partais de TIBB'
'soins' means 'health care and DO NOT use Google translation, you have dozens of translators on the Internet, but not that one !
'je peux parler de quelque chose'
'sans que les gens me disent'
'Tu es partie'.

Merci pour le compliment ! Moi aussi je suis fatigué car j'ai bu et fumé aussi, un peu trop. Bisous ! :hugesmile:
Hahahahahahahhahaha
It's morning time and laughing at my mistakes :P

EX-COMMUNIST 06-02-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Remy, you shouldnt even dignify that with an answer. Someone who doesnt even speak french trying to teach you about it, is the most laughable thing I have ever heard. Anyways, as a person who speaks both languages fluently, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, french is much more complex than english, and more difficult to learn, thats a fact. It took me 3 months to learn english when I moved to the US, and I can say with a great deal of confidence, I speak English better than most natives. Its a very simple language to learn, asides from the vocabulary which is the same for every language. But as far as grammar is concerned, it doesnt get any simpler.
Now, for the expert in french morphology, can you make a post in french? YOu havent even attempted to do so. Why dont you go ahead and show us just how easy, the language is.
What are you on about “It doesn’t get simpler”? That’s completely wrong!

There are plenty of languages that are simpler morphologically than English – Afrikaans, Thai, Vietnamese, Norwegian, just to name a few. And why have all these Francophones got this attitude that synthesis equals difficulty. Chinese is the epitome of analysis and it’s probably the hardest language anyone can learn and it’s one of the most morphologically simple languages in the world.

French, stuck under the tyranny of “L’Académie Francaise” is going stagnant. English on the other hand is free to change. Although it’s currently semi-analytical, it will become more synthetic at some point in the future when the prepositions merge on to the noun into case prefixes, which will then deteriorate over time, which will make way for postpositions with the language back in its analytical state. Then the postpositions will merge onto the noun into case suffixes which will make English synthetic again, having gone full circle. English is free to develop in circles of analysis to synthesis to analysis like all natural languages are doing and have always done:

Synthetic (suffixes) [Anglo-saxon] ->
Analytical (prepositions) [Modern English] ->
Synthetic (prefixes) [in the future] ->
Analytical (postpositions) [in the future] ->
Synthetic (suffixes) [in the future] etc…
and we will have gone full circle and will continue to do so!

French on the other hand will die out eventually since it’s so tightly regulated and isn’t allowed to evolve naturally. Inflections derive from particles that merge onto nouns turning into prefixes or suffixes. So, why don’t you proud Frenchies let your language evolve?!

So get rid of your egoistic attitude of: “Synthesis = Superiority” and “Analysis = Inferiority”! Languages go through cycles of analysis and synthesis; it just happens to be that English is currently semi-analytical and French is currently semi-synthetic.

Deirdre 06-02-2009 09:31 PM

Je m'appelle Deirdre. J'ai 15 ans. J'ahbite a Ireland.. that's probably all wrong but I do french in school and i like it:colour:

Ninastar 06-02-2009 09:33 PM

Vivo en harrogate, Es muy pintoresco y grande. Me encanta harrogate <3

Fom 06-02-2009 09:52 PM

I know this is back tracking a bit but someone said French is one of the hardest languages to learn.
I personally think that English must be HORRIBLE to learn.

EX-COMMUNIST 06-02-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Fom
I know this is back tracking a bit but someone said French is one of the hardest languages to learn.
I personally think that English must be HORRIBLE to learn.
I'd say it's probably more time-consuming to learn French because it has a higher morpheme-per-word (mpw) ratio than English. That isn't to say that synthesis=superiority though. French has what many linguists call, "stagnant morphemes" since the inflections are supplemented by particles.

Captain.Remy 07-02-2009 04:33 AM

Jeeeez, he's back. :rolleyes:
Because of course he speaks French better than AMA and I do but it's alright.

Fom, French is very hard to learn, that's a fact. Its full of twists and rules which doesn't exists in English.

English, on the other hand, is quite easy: we don't separate gender, tenses are easy (have, have, has, have, have, have) etc... And I love how it sounds (but that's a personal opinion)


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