He's an idiot. She wasn't going to lower herself by getting into a fight with a moron. She was right on. He's too ignorant. The truth hurts sometimes.

He does but I think it's just a warped interpretation of respect and conduct, rather than being chauvinistic like Jim is. He thinks women should treat themselves with respect and not sleep around, they should conduct themselves like ladies, especially when they have children. And to be fair to him, I don't think he's been bragging about sexual conquests in the house - whereas Luisa was openly volunteering information about how she thinks having lots of sex is great, sex parties are great, and telling people how many people she's slept with. Dappy doesn't think that's respectable behaviour. It isn't, it's cheap and it makes her look nasty. Fair enough if she thinks it's liberating and she's happy with it, but she has to expect criticism if she's so open about her sex life - not everyone is the same.

Of course, Dappy is no angel and is by no means perfect himself, but that doesn't detract from his points about Luisa, it just means he's a hypocrite.

Which is why such double standards have to be challenged, not pandered to.

Dan speaks wise sense.

Think it's worth dismissing something as more morally wrong than the other, just because one doesn't quite tickle your fancy? Does that 'argument' extend to gay people, because two men at it seems repugnant to you and find it natural that two members of the opposite gender have sex instead, so one rule for straights and another for everyone else?

Nonsense.

How does Dappy know what will affect Luisa's daughter?
How does Luisa know how Dappy's mum will feel?

These are intentional statements aimed at hurting emotions. They have nothing to do with respecting or disrespecting a person’s freedom to enjoy the life they want to.

A woman's body has to be entered? Are you serious? What a narrow minded view on sex you must have to reason this way.

I have to agree, it is just an attempt at condoing such male double standards.

How personal sex is about the individuals involved and their own moral code and has little to do with things such as 'internal' or 'external' sex or indeed gender.

I agree with Luisa that he's being extremely sexist

Ok,It does'nt have to be,But it usually is.lol.Anyway who even cares anymore?I just watched last nights ep and it was hilarious.They're all friends again.

who gives a ****, if you ain't hurting nobody, then do whatever the **** makes you happy.

It's the year 2014 and miserable old ****ing men are still worried about this? really?

Here's a rule, if it's not hurting anyone, then why is it bad? can anyone explain that to me?

It's pathetic for anyone to be judging people based on having sex. There are trully evil people out there hurting other people. worry about them. Stop worrying about people that are just having fun.

Testing tablet, ignore me

It was ME that said that and if you think that's narrow minded,that's up to you,when you have sex a womans body is 'usually' entered making it more intimate for a woman ,but why bother about it we are all different its up to the individual if they want to 'sleep' around.

Nope.

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