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Dash Darington 03-02-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429202)
He was still attacked nonetheless, why ignore the facts? The police did confirm that the attack did indeed happen, regardless of broken ribs or whatever. Do you not think this attack was unprovoked or even just a little bit cruel?

You've been asked repeatedly to substantiate that, and have failed to do so.

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429251)
Who knows - were neck injuries mentioned in the hospital reports? Why did he just keep it around his neck (which somehow got around his neck through his cold weather clothing) for 45 mins after the attack? Why did the bleach not discolour his clothes or burn his skin?

No one mentioned anything about neck injuries, well I didn’t at least. The idea of having strangers trying to put a rope around your neck is traumatising tbh. Not to mention being doused in bleach while someone chants MAGA. If you were in his position, imagine people called you a liar

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10429259)
You've been asked repeatedly to substantiate that, and have failed to do so.

Why would I when the police already did? :smug:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...-cops-13935765

Oliver_W 03-02-2019 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429263)
No one mentioned anything about neck injuries, well I didn’t at least. The idea of having strangers trying to put a rope around your neck is traumatising tbh. Not to mention being doused in bleach while someone chants MAGA. If you were in his position, imagine people called you a liar

It was really considerate of them to force a rope around someone's neck which has no physical effect on them at all, and to use bleach which is 100% non-corrosive.

reece(: 03-02-2019 09:17 PM

Yall really are putting too much of your energy into doubting these police reports. One wonders why other stories aren't approached with such cynicism

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429271)
It was really considerate of them to force a rope around someone's neck which has no physical effect on them at all, and to use bleach which is 100% non-corrosive.

Does none of this even sound the least bit cruel? He had a rope put around his neck and had bleach poured over him, corrosive or not. It’s almost as if you condone their behaviour

Matthew. 03-02-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429271)
It was really considerate of them to force a rope around someone's neck which has no physical effect on them at all, and to use bleach which is 100% non-corrosive.

I think you’re taking your sig a little bit too literally Oliver

Oliver_W 03-02-2019 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429275)
Does none of this even sound the least bit cruel? He had a rope put around his neck and had bleach poured over him, corrosive or not. It’s almost as if you condone their behaviour

At the moment there's only verified proof that he hurt his ribs. His story does seem a bit fantastical.
I just think the most likely scenario if he was attacked is that someone shoved him over, and he embellished things like the rope, the imaginary bleach, the MAGA stuff, and the hockey masks.

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429283)
At the moment there's only verified proof that he hurt his ribs. His story does seem a bit fantastical.
I just think the most likely scenario if he was attacked is that someone shoved him over, and he embellished things like the rope, the imaginary bleach, the MAGA stuff, and the hockey masks.

That’s a lot of things to exaggerate tbh. Please do not tell me you think he deserved any of this. Would you not worry if that was you in his position? The rope around the neck, the bleach and all that MAGA sh*te

Dash Darington 03-02-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429264)
Why would I when the police already did? :smug:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...-cops-13935765

That's the same article that incorrectly reports that his ribs were broken. They cite TMZ as their source that the attack was caught on tape, but the TMZ article doesn't actually say that, only that the building's security camera recorded him walking in with a rope around his neck.

reece(: 03-02-2019 09:28 PM

Why on EARTH would Chicago police release images of suspects of interest if they weren't looking to make arrests for the charge?

Oliver_W 03-02-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429291)
That’s a lot of things to exaggerate tbh. Please do not tell me you think he deserved any of this. Would you not worry if that was you in his position? The rope around the neck, the bleach and all that MAGA sh*te

Like I said, I have doubts over the rope, the bleach, and the MAGA stuff, I think they were probably embellishments to what actually happened. And when did I suggest he deserved it?

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10429295)
That's the same article that incorrectly reports that his ribs were broken. They cite TMZ as their source that the attack was caught on tape, but the TMZ article doesn't actually say that, only that the building's security camera recorded him walking in with a rope around his neck.

What you think is an incorrect report isn’t necessarily true. What more would it take to actually prove to you?

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429307)
Like I said, I have doubts over the rope, the bleach, and the MAGA stuff, I think they were probably embellishments to what actually happened. And when did I suggest he deserved it?

You’re not exactly showing any signs of sympathy and almost passing it off as some kind of joke? You might not have said it (because no one is ever that direct about being cynical) but you sure have said some things to suggest it

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:32 PM

Some people are actually heartless I swear. Not even a bit of sympathy despite the evidence to support him

Smithy 03-02-2019 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429315)
Some people are actually heartless I swear. Not even a bit of sympathy despite the evidence to support him

Heartlessness definitely isn’t the problem... there’s be a lot more of an outpouring of sympathy if it was a straight white man...

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10429320)
Heartlessness definitely isn’t the problem... there’s be a lot more of an outpouring of sympathy if it was a straight white man...

It’s all an excuse to be cynical and edgy tbh. There would definitely be more support if he wasn’t a black gay man :bored:

Dash Darington 03-02-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10429274)
Yall really are putting too much of your energy into doubting these police reports. One wonders why other stories aren't approached with such cynicism

What police reports? The victim's statement to the police, or imaginary statements from the police to the public?

Skepticism doesn't require energy. Attempting to substantiate things you know nothing about does, though.

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10429335)
What police reports? The victim's statement to the police, or imaginary statements from the police to the public?

Skepticism doesn't require energy. Attempting to substantiate things you know nothing about does, though.

Well it wouldn’t kill you to see it from Jussie’s side rather than your own. You’re entitled to your belief that there was no existing police statement because “TMZ”. The guy legit had a rope around his neck and was doused in bleach. Maybe you should substantiate where he lied

Dash Darington 03-02-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429308)
What you think is an incorrect report isn’t necessarily true.

It isn't a matter of what I think. The alleged victim himself says his ribs weren't broken.

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What more would it take to actually prove to you?
A link to the video, or a statement from police that such a video exists.

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10429346)
It isn't a matter of what I think. The alleged victim himself says his ribs weren't broken.



A link to the video, or a statement from police that such a video exists.

But the bruises, rope and bleach isn’t enough. With video evidence of the two men? A bit sadistic that you’d want to see the video of the attack but not even show even a shred of respect or support for him.

Oliver_W 03-02-2019 09:48 PM

What is there that substantiates he was doused in bleach?

SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10429353)
What is there that substantiates he was doused in bleach?

This is for both you and Dash.


SherzyK 03-02-2019 09:52 PM

This is not a TMZ report so that narrative is proven false

Oliver_W 03-02-2019 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SherzyK (Post 10429354)
This is for both you and Dash.


"Reportedly". You chose a link which can't be viewed in the UK, where does the link for that text lead?


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